The System New Mail sound in Seamonkey>Edit>Preferences>Notifications.

dijetlo · 05-23-2014, 11:35 PM

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modprobe pcspkr

nothin', I don't think this things got one.

OK, the session monitor is just pouring interesting data into my term, hey, you aren't logged in as root, are you? (I promise I wont tell if you are). Root has some serious impact on the dbus session pipe.

dijetlo · 05-23-2014, 11:50 PM

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bash-4.2$ dbus-monitor --session
signal sender=org.freedesktop.DBus -> dest=:1.61 serial=2 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=NameAcquired
string ":1.61"
method call sender=:1.61 -> dest=org.freedesktop.DBus serial=3 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=AddMatch
string "eavesdrop=true,type='method_call'"
method call sender=:1.61 -> dest=org.freedesktop.DBus serial=4 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=AddMatch
string "eavesdrop=true,type='method_return'"
method call sender=:1.61 -> dest=org.freedesktop.DBus serial=5 path=/org/freedesktop/DBus; interface=org.freedesktop.DBus; member=AddMatch
string "eavesdrop=true,type='error'"

This is me initiating the session monitor. The "name" for this session appear to be 1.61

ST, There is just too much data here to go through tonight, if it's OK with you, I'll pick it up tomorrow morning and post back. My suggestions will likely improve with a little research and analysis.

Until then...

Look on the bright side, at least you've got a system bell. I didn't miss mine until you mentioned it...

stf92 · 05-24-2014, 12:03 AM

Yeah, it's rather late here. Well, I was going to run it from the main menu but you wanted icons! I started X as a regular user (I would never dare to do the contrary way!). I'll let my mail client notify (the regular way) now. Now I will run your commands. [TOo late, you beat me]

stf92 · 05-24-2014, 12:08 AM

All right. I hope the analysis and research will be on your part, you are the guru.

dijetlo · 05-24-2014, 12:20 AM

Pfft... dude, I just found out my system bell is working
but only in xfce.
???!!?!?!?!?
<sigh>
I'm just a collaborator on this voyage of discovery, I appreciate the company.

stf92 · 05-24-2014, 12:32 AM

Here the CRT outputs go (attached), --monitor run first then --system on the other GUI terminal.

stf92 · 05-24-2014, 12:35 AM

That's bad. You mean the VESA terminal?

dijetlo · 05-24-2014, 01:02 AM

No, I backspaced a command I mistyped in the run dialog and was treated to a strange noise coming from right beside me.

No... that's not the system bell!?!?!?!?

Yup.
Of course, now that I can emulate your problem more closely, perhaps we'll have better shot at fixing it.

stf92 · 05-24-2014, 01:31 AM

Certainly not the system bell. I loved the tiny little internal speaker. I've some of them with a sizable magnet from my old machines. I'm having a hardware/BIOS problem with another machine which affects video. Some moderator born in Germany, said modern BIOS/UEFI diagnostics are now made with a video monitor. Go diagnose the BIOS now if you have no video!

dijetlo · 05-24-2014, 03:21 PM

At some point, I stopped thinking about D-Bus and all our data long enough to think about your problem again.
I'm a moron...did I mention that? The bug report was old, so I did a little more digging the issue they are talking about is this line...

Code:

 Atom NewMailAtom = XInternAtom(GDK_DISPLAY(), "NewMail", False);
+// Passing None for the window ID is wrong, however it appears to be
+// more trouble than it's worth to get the ID.

GDK_DISPLAY() was deprecated in version 2.2 so now they use gdk_display_get_default() which takes an empty argument and returns a pointer to the current desktop sp assuming your not running some historic version of Seamonkey, that's not an issue either.(Slackware current ships seamonkey-2.26) assuming Mozilla updated the source code to the newer gdk_display_get_default(), but you know what they say about assuming...
I don't see a solution in the D-BUS output it isn't catching signals, it seems to be listening for them.
I checked syslog, xorg.log ... nothin;
However....<ding> <ding> <ding>

My system bell has been cranking away since we last talked ;P

stf92 · 05-24-2014, 04:00 PM

Sorry to hear that. You are no moron, but are a programmer and we are used to have programs show us our own faults. I must first write to a Mozilla maillist and, with luck, they'll tell me what the first option in the Notifications dialog box is intended to do: use ALSA or the system bell? But I must have been dreaming. The system bell used in the GUI? It most certainly is ALSA too, and in that case it does not matter and the whole case I dismiss it.

At first I almost blow a tweeter out when a notification arrived, then I normalized the file to get less output power and my speaker were safe. But what if I fall asleep. One thing is a tiny little beep, another thing's my two 20-dm3 baffles waking me up. Good luck.

dijetlo · 05-24-2014, 05:41 PM

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At first I almost blow a tweeter out when a notification arrived,

I don't use them generally. The last time I had one at work, it played a three second clip from the song "Oh Death" but Gregorian Monks chanting/moaning got mighty old mighty quick with the amount of email I get in a day. I took it off.

<ding><ding><ding>

But I'm seriously thinking of replacing it with this delightful system bell you found for me....

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the whole case I dismiss it.

Not so fast, ST, if we can narrow this down and fix the code, we can rename it STF92_Monkey or, perhaps, Shock_The_SeaMonkey (I'll leave it up to you) and pass it up channel.

stf92 · 05-24-2014, 06:07 PM

Yes, if you are listening to music the bell is inaudible but in the still of the night it sounds great. Gregorian chant? I have heard it at low volume in a very large empty room (high reverberation times, as in a church) and thought it sounded splendid. You could put the final bars from the 1812 overture. That'll make a good job notifying you incoming mail.

ADDENDUM: You're right. Not at all, dijetlo_Monkey, please!

dijetlo · 05-24-2014, 06:11 PM

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t it sounded splendid.

I thought so too until I heard 150 or so times a day....