I meant his name, not his message.
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Might I suggest going to "My LQ" and selecting "Edit Ignore List"? I've never actually done that before, but it turns out to be a wonderful thing. I'm all fired up about Slackware64 and would like to learn more, but all this drama is too much for me.
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I need to explore a bit more. |
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Ignoring him saves me precious time. |
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Unfortunately, I suspect that when Slackware64 is released as stable, much of this "advice" will either be irrelevant or flat out wrong (if it isn't already). New Slackware users may find themselves dealing with frustrations they would not have had to otherwise had the signal-to-noise ratio been more favorable. I would hope that if any of this "advice" does eventually turn out to be "ill-advised", that these threads would be closed to hopefully prevent people from borking their system. |
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I think future users of this thread will have enough arguments within that advice against some of the before mentioned advice. So users beware! Read the WHOLE thread. |
I would be absolutely happy to be wrong, IF:
1.) Slackware64 ships with a fully operational multilib environment. 2.) They provide a complete 32-bit compatibility environment in the stock release. 3.) You can easily compile 32-bit applications. Yes, I would be absolutely happy to be wrong. And then none of this would make any sense (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...30#post3559330). And PatV's interview can simply be thrown out as empty chatter: http://tllts.org/mirror.php?fname=tl...4-10-25-06.mp3 Yes, please make me wrong... Shingoshi |
Ok, thanks for the advice, Eric :) I forgot to mention, that I'm using slackware-current distro, so I am a beta tester ;)
What I'm asking for is not the official standing and recipe, but only a path, that You will use to do this upgrade. |
Some things don't need to be set in stone...
Standards are most often used to establish a level appropriate equivalency in environments that tend to be dissimilar.
As far as FHS standards go, the following groups have already abandoned it: Ubuntu Gentoo FreeBSD http://lists.debian.org/debian-relea.../msg00144.html Quote:
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Shingoshi, whilst your arguments are obviously very important to you, I feel you are missing the point completely. Slackware64 is developed by an extremely small group, who will release what they want, when they feel it is ready. If they choose to have 32-bit compatibility they will include it. If they don't they won't.
All you need to look at is the example of Gnome for both the answer and the solution. If you are so bothered by this work on patches to the system and offer them for acceptance. If they are taken up all is good and well, if not you can offer them as a separate entity. There is no use complaining about something if you are not willing to do something about it. samac |
If you all put Shingoshi on on your ignore lists, then who is going to protect newbies from being misled by his advice?
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I also don't see how this would limit any potential ports. You seem to be finding problems where non exist. I'm torn between the desire to put you on ignore and the need of calling 'bullshit!' when I see it. As brianL says, newbies have enough to worry about when getting to grips with slackware without having to try and see through all this misinformation and FUD! |
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Also, there are a number of Master Slackers like gnashley and onebuck who will not steer you wrong. Over time a new Slacker will identify other mentors that they can trust. Agreed. FUD is something a new user can do without! |
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The sky is falling! :( The sky is falling! :( The sky is falling! :( Hopefully this thread will shrink and disappear? Slackware64 -current; The concurrence of Slackware -current in a 64 bit environment port; Quote:
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Please, stop all this mess and wait 'til the final release.
I'm sure we will have a nice UPGRADE.txt, althought i think reinstalling from scratch is a more clever choice. Then we will find plenty of ways to run 32bit apps (scripted chroot, kvm/qemu...). Or not !!! I mean running a 64bit system is not mandatory, it's just an optimization. Until now, Blender 64 is the only program i saw running twice faster than 32bit version... |
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