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Old 01-30-2021, 07:50 AM   #3031
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Kernel updates 5.10.12, 5.4.94, 4.19.172, 4.14.218, 4.9.254 and 4.4.254 are now available at,
https://www.kernel.org/
The change logs,
https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...ngeLog-5.10.12
...
Tanks building now
john
 
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Old 01-30-2021, 08:10 AM   #3032
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5.10.12 generic running fine
 
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Old 01-30-2021, 08:17 AM   #3033
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I notice. .12 includes a fix for the new binutils issue.
 
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Old 01-30-2021, 09:04 AM   #3034
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For those who want a fancy terminal, with scrollback and all the bells ringing, there is always for you the modern, KMS accelerated KMSCON which support even CJK (Chinese ideograms).

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/kmscon/
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KMSCON
And also mlterm have the same features and much more:
https://github.com/arakiken/mlterm/blob/master/README
http://slackware.uk/slint/x86_64/sli...source/mlterm/

In a graphical environment, Ctrl+left click displays the contextual menu, Ctrl+right click raises the mlterm preferences GUI.

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Old 01-30-2021, 10:37 AM   #3035
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Kernel updates 5.10.12, 5.4.94, 4.19.172, 4.14.218, 4.9.254 and 4.4.254 are now available at,
https://www.kernel.org/
The changelog,
https://cdn.kernel.org/pub/linux/ker...angeLog-5.4.94
5.4.94 seem to build fine:
Code:
Linux hp-laptop.example.org 5.4.94 #1 SMP Sat Jan 30 16:23:35 CET 2021 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T6400@2.00GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
 
Old 01-30-2021, 11:11 AM   #3036
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This sounds quite interesting:

Quote:
Originally Posted by ZhaoLin1457 View Post
For those who want a fancy terminal, with scrollback and all the bells ringing, there is always for you the modern, KMS accelerated KMSCON which support even CJK (Chinese ideograms).

https://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/kmscon/
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/KMSCON
I read quite a bit at the two URLs above.

The documentation does not say much, however I see it mentions systemd quite a bit. I wonder whether kmscon will readily work with Slackware 14.2, or can reasonably be made to do so.
 
Old 01-30-2021, 11:14 AM   #3037
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Luckily the muscle memory starts to fade after a couple of months and is replaced by a vague sense of disappointment.
Same sentiment on console scrollback. Gotta try to remember to run everything into most | less | XTerm. Progress?
 
Old 01-30-2021, 12:10 PM   #3038
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This sounds quite interesting:

I read quite a bit at the two URLs above.

The documentation does not say much, however I see it mentions systemd quite a bit. I wonder whether kmscon will readily work with Slackware 14.2, or can reasonably be made to do so.
It talks with systemd-logind (and our elogind says Hi! waving its hand) and you need to modify /etc/inittab like this:
Code:
# These are the standard console login getties in multiuser mode:
c1:12345:respawn:/sbin/agetty --noclear 38400 tty1 linux
c2:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/kmscon --vt=tty2 --no-switchvt
c3:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/kmscon --vt=tty3 --no-switchvt
c4:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/kmscon --vt=tty4 --no-switchvt
c5:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/kmscon --vt=tty5 --no-switchvt
c6:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/kmscon --vt=tty6 --no-switchvt
The first VT console is best to be kept with agetty, just in case.

More details you can find there:

https://dvdhrm.wordpress.com/2012/12...-introduction/

and there: https://slackbuilds.org/repository/14.2/system/kmscon/
Code:
Using kmscon as a regular user
------------------------------

As shipped, kmscon only works for root. If you want to be able to run
it as a normal user, you could make it setuid root (not recommended). A
better solution:

setcap cap_sys_tty_config,cap_sys_admin=ep

See capabilities(7) and http://www.slackbuilds.org/caps/ for more info
on capabilities.

When running as a normal user, you probably also want to add "--login
-- /bin/bash -i" on the kmscon command line (or the equivalent, in
/etc/kmscon/kmscon.conf).

Using kmscon as a console replacement
-------------------------------------

kmscon has much better support for fonts and Unicode/UTF-8 than the
Linux framebuffer console. If you want to use kmscon for all your
console logins, edit /etc/inittab and replace the /sbin/agetty lines
(around line 50 on Slack 14.1) with:

c1:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/kmscon --vt /dev/tty1
c2:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/kmscon --vt /dev/tty2
c3:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/kmscon --vt /dev/tty3
c4:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/kmscon --vt /dev/tty4
c5:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/kmscon --vt /dev/tty5
c6:12345:respawn:/usr/bin/kmscon --vt /dev/tty6

You might also want to edit /etc/kmscon/kmscon.conf and uncomment the
line beginning with 'login=/sbin/agetty ...'.

If you're in the habit of logging in as root, you'll want to edit
/etc/securetty and uncomment the lines for pts/0 through pts/7. This
is only needed for actual root logins (su and sudo will work fine
without it).

After making your edits, "init q" followed by "killall agetty" will fire
up the new kmscon login prompts (alternatively, you can reboot).

There's no need to use setcap if you're running kmscon from /etc/inittab,
since it will always run as root.

Misc
----

You'll almost certainly want to use a UTF-8 locale with kmscon. Normally
this is set in /etc/profile.d/lang.sh (but you could also do it in your
your ~/.bash_profile or such, if you like).

When using kmscon, you'll have to use ctrl-alt-F# to switch consoles. Also
try ctrl-plus and ctrl-minus (for zooming).

You won't be able to run links in framebuffer mode (with "links -g
-driver fb") from within a kmscon session.

startx will work normally from kmscon.

kmscon has *no* support for gpm, or the mouse in general. There's no way
to select or paste text with the mouse, and no way to use the mouse in
mouse-aware textmode applications like links.

svgalib applications are highly unlikely to work from within kmscon.

mplayer's framebuffer support (-vo fbdev or -vo fbdev2) doesn't work from
within kmscon.

Japanese man pages render beautifully with kmscon. Install man-db and
man-pages-ja, and set LANG="ja_JP.UTF-8" in /etc/profile.d/lang.sh.
This is README.Slackware from the SBo package for Slackware 14.2


I suggest to people to use their Google-Fu, instead to become scared from starters by the word "systemd" .

After all, we have two from those three founder members of systemd "team" with eudev and elogind...

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Old 01-31-2021, 10:38 AM   #3039
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Linux 5.10.12 still making my X.org crash, as did 5.10.1, 5.10.2, 5.10.4…

I think I will skip the entire 5.10.x series altogether. Never in 15+ years have I had such a problem with a kernel…
 
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Old 01-31-2021, 12:12 PM   #3040
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I don't know if it is a kernel problem or not, but here is what I've experienced in the last 24 hours.

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6214235

and

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6214337

I think this thread would be a better place for the discussion, if any.
 
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Old 01-31-2021, 12:59 PM   #3041
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Quote:
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Linux 5.10.12 still making my X.org crash, as did 5.10.1, 5.10.2, 5.10.4…

I think I will skip the entire 5.10.x series altogether. Never in 15+ years have I had such a problem with a kernel…
Agreed.
I'm beginning to think the "A Team" has been on vacation.
 
Old 01-31-2021, 01:46 PM   #3042
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Linux 5.10.12 still making my X.org crash, as did 5.10.1, 5.10.2, 5.10.4…

I think I will skip the entire 5.10.x series altogether. Never in 15+ years have I had such a problem with a kernel…
If 5.10 works just as well, I think 2 years is enough for this LTS.
 
Old 01-31-2021, 02:16 PM   #3043
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If 5.10 works just as well, I think 2 years is enough for this LTS.
Why? They haven't even fixed the bugs in the 4.9.xx series. It seems more bugs are getting implemented and not enough fixes.

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Old 01-31-2021, 03:31 PM   #3044
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gouttegd View Post
Linux 5.10.12 still making my X.org crash, as did 5.10.1, 5.10.2, 5.10.4…

I think I will skip the entire 5.10.x series altogether. Never in 15+ years have I had such a problem with a kernel…
Have you found any bug reports for it or done a git bisect to find the bad commit? The kernel developers can't fix what they don't know is wrong...
 
Old 01-31-2021, 04:11 PM   #3045
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5.11-rc6

Release Candidate 6, for the 5.11 "mainline" development kernel has been been made available for testing.

The tarball, https://git.kernel.org/torvalds/t/linux-5.11-rc6.tar.gz

Mr. Torvalds' announcement, http://lkml.iu.edu/hypermail/linux/k...1.3/08107.html

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