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Old 08-09-2018, 01:16 PM   #1
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The KDE Plasma 5.34.4 was released 10 days ago and it is not in KTown yet. What happened with the "greatest and mightest" thing?


https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.13.4.php

I am aware that following the Plasma5 development is like walking on a treadmill, according with Mr. Volkerding, or how Darth Vader says in his colored style, it has an infernal pace.

But is supposed us to test carefully this Plasma5, and I seen no sign on KTown about Plasma5 5.13.4, which probably will be very interesting for us to test it.

So, the Plasma5 treadmill runs so fast even for Mr. Hameleers and his almighty ThreadRippers?

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Old 08-09-2018, 01:23 PM   #2
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Probably that latest Plasma5 does not compile with our current GLIBC, which is, well... latest.
 
Old 08-09-2018, 02:01 PM   #3
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Don't you know the answer? In Slackware, it always is "when it's ready". And that's not a bug, it's a feature.
 
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:15 PM   #4
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a thread that starts like this (see attached picture) can only be terrible, so vote it like this

Admins, I think you can close this stupid provocation to a person that has a full time job, a family, and does a great job for the Slackware community.
Actually I think the OP should be blocked for some days (365+) to have time if this is a nice and productive way to contribute to this community.
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:16 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by ZhaoLin1457 View Post
https://www.kde.org/announcements/plasma-5.13.4.php

I am aware that following the Plasma5 development is like walking on a treadmill, according with Mr. Volkerding, or how Darth Vader says in his colored style, it has an infernal pace.

But is supposed us to test carefully this Plasma5, and I seen no sign on KTown about Plasma5 5.13.4, which probably will be very interesting for us to test it.

So, the Plasma5 treadmill runs so fast even for Mr. Hameleers and his almighty ThreadRippers?
If you would have taken your thumbs out of your [removed] and had checked my repository and my blog, you would have seen that I never follow all releases. My own schedule is: one ktown release per month, using the most recent versions of whatever is available at that very moment.

Let me be clear. [removed]. This post gives you a place in my killfile (I find that term more appropriate to my feelings right now than the politically correct "ignore list").
You do not dictate my life. You are insulting my efforts. Welcome to the Darth Vader fan club. *PLONK*

Edit: for a4z, here is the screenshot of the content of that message you do not see since the OP is already in your killfile
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:29 PM   #6
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/me puts ZhaoLin1457 into ignore list
 
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Old 08-09-2018, 02:50 PM   #7
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My own schedule is: one ktown release per month, using the most recent versions of whatever is available at that very moment.
That explains everything.

Excuse me for confusing KTown with some extension of slackware-current, where the kernels are updated weekly, if is the case.

I do not dictate someone life, but please consider that also some people spend their time to test this Plasma5 for the greater good.

Anyway, looks like I treated this Plasma5 too seriously, so I think is better for me to return to KDE4 for now.

Because I do not want to be considered asshole just because I try to test some software which eventually will be adopted by a Linux distribution.

All the best!

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Old 08-09-2018, 02:54 PM   #8
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/me removes ZhaoLin1457 from ignore list
 
Old 08-09-2018, 03:09 PM   #9
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That explains everything.

Excuse me for confusing KTown with some extension of slackware-current, where the kernels are updated weekly, if is the case.

I do not dictate someone life, but please consider that also some people spend their time to test this Plasma5 for the greater good.

Anyway, looks like I treated this Plasma5 too seriously, so I think is better for me to return to KDE4 for now.

Because I do not want to be considered asshole just because I try to test some software which eventually will be adopted by a Linux distribution.

All the best!
Slackware-current doesn't always follow the latest release of everything, either.

If your intent was really as wholesome as you claim, you wouldn't have worded it so antagonistically.

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Old 08-09-2018, 03:29 PM   #10
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People from all over the world post on this board, so it could be as simple as a language problem, that is, "English as a second language," or third or fourth, etc.
 
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Old 08-09-2018, 03:38 PM   #11
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People from all over the world post on this board, so it could be as simple as a language problem, that is, "English as a second language," or third or fourth, etc.
I'm aware of that, but somehow I don't think that he would have accidentally laced his thread title and post with sarcasm.
 
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Old 08-09-2018, 03:44 PM   #12
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BTW, happened to read on Eric's blog that our BDFL said that he wants to follow on "greatest and mightest" Plasma5.

Anyway, I do not seen that "sarcasm" (about you talk) in the original post, but more like worrying about the Plasma5 development speed, which may be so much even for Eric. And the OP interest to test that new Plasma5 release.

I know, I know, everybody is expected to speak English like they teaches at Oxford, right?

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Old 08-09-2018, 03:48 PM   #13
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Anyway, looks like I treated this Plasma5 too seriously, so I think is better for me to return to KDE4 for now.
I believe that's a very bad idea to return on KDE4 right now.

You seen how some of others understand to "test" that Plasma5 regarding Slackware. E.g. installing Kubuntu or Arch or, at best, using virtual machines.

IF this crowd remains the majority, the risk is to have someday on Slackware a Plasma5 which behaves like a crap. As was demonstrated by those KWin + cheap Radeon adventures...

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Old 08-09-2018, 03:51 PM   #14
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Even Darth is not such an asshole.
I find disturbing that your asshole-meter is divided in darths...

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Old 08-09-2018, 04:04 PM   #15
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Slackware-current doesn't always follow the latest release of everything, either.
Re: KDE4

I appreciate very much how wise is our BDFL to still on KDE4, with all that pressure about "let's merge Plasma5!"

However, I believe that considering this "let's merge Plasma5!" movement, some people may be confused on that KTown will start to follow the -current style of adopting quickly many software, e.g. Kernel, GCC, even GLIBC.

I for one, I will not worry even Eric release a new Plasma5 build once a year.

In fact, if I will not be worried that that Plasma5 will be poured in Slackware someday, in a way which will make very time costly the usage of alternative DEs, I will not bother about this Plasma5 at all.

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