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Old 02-12-2020, 12:44 AM   #1
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Talking The day Slackware meets PAM: Wed Feb 12 05:05:50 UTC 2020


Wed Feb 12 05:05:50 UTC 2020 Changelog.

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Hey folks! PAM has finally landed in /testing. Some here wanted it to go
right into the main tree immediately, and in a more normal development cycle
I'd have been inclined to agree (it is -current, after all).
And there's more to come... Xfce 4.14 and Plasma 5.18 LTS. AlienBob should be super happy! Well deserved indeed.

So, how many of you are happy? How many of you are sad? How many of you are trolls?

I'm happy.

EDIT: that changelog time can't be just coincidence.

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Old 02-12-2020, 01:31 AM   #2
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And thanks as well to ivandi - I learned a lot from the SlackMATE build
scripts and was even occasionally thankful for the amusing ways you would
kick my ass on LQ. ;-) You're more than welcome to let us know where we've
messed up this time.
Patrick is such a nice guy
 
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Old 02-12-2020, 01:32 AM   #3
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Pat Authentication Module?
 
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Old 02-12-2020, 02:32 AM   #4
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So per the changelog he thanks ivandi - too bad ivandi pretty much jumped ship from Slackware recently .
 
Old 02-12-2020, 02:40 AM   #5
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So per the changelog he thanks ivandi - too bad ivandi pretty much jumped ship from Slackware recently .
pro-tip: never believe an *ex*-junkie.

cheers,
 
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Old 02-12-2020, 02:43 AM   #6
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So per the changelog he thanks ivandi - too bad ivandi pretty much jumped ship from Slackware recently .
Nah, he'll come back.

And though I'm not currently using Slackware, I'm regularly reading the ChangeLog. Whatever happens, I'll always have a soft spot for Slackware.
 
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Old 02-12-2020, 03:07 AM   #7
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I wonder if there is a way to install the packages from testing using slackpkg. I have already tried slackpkg install testing/* without success.
 
Old 02-12-2020, 03:28 AM   #8
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I think it's worth to quote Pat's message entirely.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick Volkerding
Wed Feb 12 05:05:50 UTC 2020
Hey folks! PAM has finally landed in /testing. Some here wanted it to go
right into the main tree immediately, and in a more normal development cycle
I'd have been inclined to agree (it is -current, after all). But it's
probably better for it to appear in /testing first, to make sure we didn't
miss any bugs and also to serve as a warning shot that we'll be shaking up
the tree pretty good over the next few weeks. I'd like to see this merged
into the main tree in a day or two, so any testing is greatly appreciated.
Switching to the PAM packages (or reverting from them) is as easy as
installing all of them with upgradepkg --install-new, and if reverting then
remove the three leftover _pam packages. After reverting, a bit of residue
will remain in /etc/pam.d/ and /etc/security/ which can either be manually
deleted or simply ignored. While there are many more features available in
PAM compared with plain shadow, out of the box about the only noticable
change is the use of cracklib and libpwquality to check the quality of a
user-supplied password. Hopefully having PAM and krb5 will get us on track
to having proper Active Directory integration as well as using code paths
that are likely better audited these days. The attack surface *might* be
bigger, but it's also a lot better scrutinized.
Thanks to Robby Workman and Vincent Batts who did most of the initial heavy
lifting on the core PAM packages as a side project for many years. Thanks
also to Phantom X whose PAM related SlackBuilds were a valuable reference.
And thanks as well to ivandi - I learned a lot from the SlackMATE build
scripts and was even occasionally thankful for the amusing ways you would
kick my ass on LQ. ;-) You're more than welcome to let us know where we've
messed up this time.
The binutils and glibc packages in /testing were removed and are off the
table for now. I'm not seeing much upside to heading down that rabbit hole
at the moment. Next we need to be looking at Xfce 4.14 and Plasma 5.18 LTS
and some other things that have been held back since KDE4 couldn't use them.
Cheers! :-)
 
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Old 02-12-2020, 03:33 AM   #9
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The bottom of this document needs addressing/revising/amending?

Code:
The ISOs are off to be replicated, a 6 CD-ROM 32-bit set and a dual-sided
32-bit/64-bit x86/x86_64 DVD.  Please consider supporting the Slackware
project by picking up a copy from store.slackware.com.  We're taking
pre-orders now, and offer a discount if you sign up for a subscription.
http://store.slackware.com takes me to unfamiliar Internet territory.
 
Old 02-12-2020, 04:19 AM   #10
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Just installed them all. Nothing obvious broke here.

It's nice having /etc/environment supported natively from xdm without having to hack it into /etc/X11/xdm/Xsession like I have been doing until now, but other than that I don't really care about PAM one way or the other. Having said that I think it's a welcome change. Thanks Pat.


P.S. Unless, I'm misremembering it, xdm seems to only display the password prompt after you've entered a username, whereas before PAM it showed both prompt fields from the start. I think I prefer the old way (I was used to pressing <tab> to move between fields: old 3270 user!), but I guess I'll get used to it... eventually

Adding the following to the /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources xlogin*login.translations entry helps if you're having trouble overcoming the the muscle memory:
Code:
<Key>Tab: set-session-argument() finish-field()\n\

Last edited by GazL; 02-12-2020 at 04:37 AM.
 
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Old 02-12-2020, 05:11 AM   #11
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I've done the upgrade, and I haven't noticed any issues either.

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Originally Posted by GazL View Post
Adding the following to the /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources xlogin*login.translations entry helps if you're having trouble overcoming the the muscle memory:
Code:
<Key>Tab: set-session-argument() finish-field()\n\
Thanks, although I don't mind the new behaviour.

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Old 02-12-2020, 05:18 AM   #12
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Dropline gnome will have way less work , many thanks to all who worked on that !!! Yeay, finally.
 
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Old 02-12-2020, 05:29 AM   #13
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Hello,

Quote:
Originally Posted by lioh View Post
I wonder if there is a way to install the packages from testing using slackpkg. I have already tried slackpkg install testing/* without success.
To switch to PAM packages using slackpkg, you need to edit /etc/slackpkg/slackpkg.conf, then replace the line :

Code:
PRIORITY=( patches %PKGMAIN extra pasture testing )
with :

Code:
PRIORITY=( testing patches %PKGMAIN extra pasture )
Then, simply run slackpkg upgrade-all :
Code:
$ slackpkg -dialog=off upgrade-all

Checking local integrity...DONE
Looking for packages to upgrade. Please wait...DONE

ConsoleKit2-1.2.1-x86_64-1_pam.txz
at-3.2.1-x86_64-1_pam.txz
cifs-utils-6.10-x86_64-2_pam.txz
cups-2.3.1-x86_64-1_pam.txz
cyrus-sasl-2.1.27-x86_64-2_pam.txz
dovecot-2.3.9.2-x86_64-1_pam.txz
gnome-keyring-3.34.0-x86_64-1_pam.txz
hplip-3.19.12-x86_64-2_pam.txz
libcap-2.31-x86_64-1_pam.txz
libcgroup-0.41-x86_64-5_pam.txz
mariadb-10.4.12-x86_64-1_pam.txz
netatalk-3.1.12-x86_64-2_pam.txz
netkit-rsh-0.17-x86_64-2_pam.txz
openssh-8.1p1-x86_64-1_pam.txz
openvpn-2.4.8-x86_64-1_pam.txz
polkit-0.116-x86_64-1_pam.txz
popa3d-1.0.3-x86_64-3_pam.txz
ppp-2.4.7-x86_64-3_pam.txz
proftpd-1.3.6b-x86_64-1_pam.txz
samba-4.11.6-x86_64-1_pam.txz
screen-4.8.0-x86_64-1_pam.txz
shadow-4.8.1-x86_64-2_pam.txz
sudo-1.8.31-x86_64-1_pam.txz
system-config-printer-1.5.12-x86_64-2_pam.txz
util-linux-2.35.1-x86_64-1_pam.txz
vsftpd-3.0.3-x86_64-5_pam.txz
xdm-1.1.11-x86_64-9_pam.txz
xlockmore-5.62-x86_64-1_pam.txz
xscreensaver-5.43-x86_64-1_pam.txz

Total package(s): 29

Do you wish to upgrade selected packages (Y/n)?
To go back to original packages, change the line PRIORITY= in slackpkg.conf to its original value, then run slackpkg upgrade-all.

Note that you'll need to install the new packages (cracklib,libpwquality,pam) manually since packages in testing are not supported by command "install-new". (This would requires to modify /usr/libexec/slackpkg/install-new.awk).

--
SeB

Last edited by phenixia2003; 02-12-2020 at 01:03 PM. Reason: wrong location of install-new.awk
 
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Old 02-12-2020, 05:32 AM   #14
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Thanks for the instructions !
 
Old 02-12-2020, 06:00 AM   #15
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When it's all merged to -current, i will have less package to handle as deps for my Cinnamon project. Big thanks!!!
 
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