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No vertical tabs? On a 1920x1200 monitor? Are you joking me? You don't have enough staff to do it? But when it comes to interfering in the internal affairs of a sovereign country you seem to have all the staff you need. GTH Google. GTH Mozilla. Vivaldi all the way, and yes, I do know what browser engine they use.
Die hard Seamonkey fan here. I don't think FF/Gecko are disasters, just big projects with long histories and competing priorities. That said I have never liked FF's UI and always wanted the features of the full suite, which is why I stuck with Mozilla and than with Seamonkey. The FF project really lost its way in that it got bigger and heavier than Seamonkey was in the first place. The whole point was to let go the cruft and in that sense they really really failed badly.
Quantum seem nice and it looks like an important modernization. I don't see the Seamonkey project having the resources to get migrated to it. When this train of FF 52 and eventually FF 56 equivalent releases get to out dated to handle the recent web I'll probably end up on FF Quantum. Chrome is clearly malware and I see Google as having to much influence over the Chromium based world to want to venture in there.
Firefox as main, and I would like to keep it that way for Slackware. I overall like how it works, and my limited understanding of how it works under the hood is still deeper than Chromium-based browsers. On various devices, my second browser is one of Chromium, Brave, Iridium or Vivaldi. I like Falkon and Otter, too, but have to cut off at some point to keep the clutter down. I could live with Seamonkey and Konqueror if I had nothing else as second browser.
I am rather unhappy with firefox, I have seen it destroy most of my use cases and perform far worse since quantum and rust, but the alternatives are either too limited, proprietary or depend on questionable software like webkitgtk so I continue to use firefox...
I recall a time I could have 1000+ tabs open with firefox which could stay open for dozens of days without interruption and had many customizable addons. Now I have two addons left and can barely keep firefox running a few days with up to 50-100 tabs...
I'm quite content with Firefox and two add-ons: uBlock Origin and Vimium. I was using Chromium until recently, but it stopped playing videos on Hulu all of a sudden, and plus I'd like to limit my use of Google-related stuff. Regarding tabs, I never understood how people could function with more than a dozen or so open at the same time, much less hundreds or thousands, even if the browser could handle it. It reminds me of Darth Vader's need to open thousands of source code files in Kate. Seems like he would have spent 90% of his time just trying to find the tab with the file he wanted to work on.
Last edited by montagdude; 09-12-2019 at 10:32 PM.
@abga Thanks, those links are helpful and I installed several addons to test.
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Regarding tabs, I never understood how people could function with more than a dozen or so open at the same time, much less hundreds or thousands, even if the browser could handle it.
I reduce the width of the tabs and remove the close button so its much easier to find a specific tab based on the icon, but I often opened new tabs instead of navigating to a new page which resulted in many redundant and forgotten tabs. Over time it would be easier to click any tab for a specific site (i.e. LinuxQuestions) than open a new tab and go to LQ.
I use Firefox, the one that comes with -current. I'd prefer the latest but the ESR version works just fine. It is my primary browser. I've been using it from before it was called Firefox. I like it, prefer it. I start Firefox with the Profile Manage by default so I can select from various saved profiles. I have 47 Add-ons installed. I'd hate to see it go from Slackware.
I used firefox and chrome/chromium mainly on -current, but recently, I found that chrome/chromium are extremely slow when trying to do a search on http://www.slackware.com/changelog/c...php?cpu=x86_64, the search window took a very long time to popup and search is very slow too. But Firefox's search popup instantly and very fast. Not sure if anybody else encounter similar problem on chrome/chromium?
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No vertical tabs? On a 1920x1200 monitor? Are you joking me? You don't have enough staff to do it? But when it comes to interfering in the internal affairs of a sovereign country you seem to have all the staff you need. GTH Google. GTH Mozilla. Vivaldi all the way, and yes, I do know what browser engine they use.
I'm with you on the vetical tabs but, unless you've some evidence that the people of Kazakhstan are all terrorists and their government perfect in every way I'd have to give a middle-finger on that comment as the most poliute response I am capable of.
I'm with you on the vetical tabs but, unless you've some evidence that the people of Kazakhstan are all terrorists and their government perfect in every way I'd have to give a middle-finger on that comment as the most poliute response I am capable of.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of governments, it is not the job of technology companies to undermine the rule of law in those countries. If there's a problem with the authorities in Kazakhstan let the people of Kazakhstan deal with it. Not Mozilla, and not Google.
Distribution: Debian Sid AMD64, Raspbian Wheezy, various VMs
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Originally Posted by Gerard Lally
Whatever the rights and wrongs of governments, it is not the job of technology companies to undermine the rule of law in those countries. If there's a problem with the authorities in Kazakhstan let the people of Kazakhstan deal with it. Not Mozilla, and not Google.
nice to know there's at least one totalitarian in the house.
I hope your government treats you like the Stalinists did their opposition. Or, perhaps, Pol Pot did his. You're truly something to be taken care of. "Politically" , of course.
Whatever the rights and wrongs of governments, it is not the job of technology companies to undermine the rule of law in those countries. If there's a problem with the authorities in Kazakhstan let the people of Kazakhstan deal with it. Not Mozilla, and not Google.
Are you saying that if any government demanded user data browsers should bow down? What if that user data included data on people from other countries which just happened to have communicated with someone using the compromised browsers? This seems like a really slippery slope to me and I am glad that despite all of the browser's shortcomings they are at least not openly divulging user data to questionable third parties.
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