Never mind me. I was questioning your approach. Carry on.

About the "violation of forum rules" - I asked about the use of non-English
All are silent, apparently, did not break anything!

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http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/rules.html

If you could find someone to translate the Russian text also at SF, it would be great. This way, you project will gain more attention. Thanks for your work!

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@sunjob, consider this as an recommendation (and a strong one at that), but as You stated, it isn't a broken rule, just an non recommended behavior.

Further, do keep up with the good job, but try hard get an translator versed at least in basic English?

I can help to translate from Russian into English. Clearly translation into 'house' is not correct it should be replaced by 'home' - home directory. My advise is to create /opt directory with all necessary sub-directories structure, and install TDE under /opt.

Sorry, but it was very rude of you! The OP is doing well trying to bring to Slackware working TDE installation. He is here to find help. Let me remind you that this is the place all issues concerning Slackware are discussed. This information you can find on www.slackware.com. The OP is physicist, not IT engineer, so you can think of OP as hobbyist spending its free time to enhance our experience as Slackware users. So, stay calm or can express this in more eloquent way. Not everyone is fascinated by this total crap called KDE4 or 5 or whatever. Actually Russians treat their language in the same way as Americans: they think that there is no need to learn any other language than theirs own.

Please, AlienBob accept my apologies, you are doing great work, I am stupid ass and quick-(ill)-tempered person, I first kick then think, about KDE4-5 being crap - clearly it is my private opinion and in modest language I could say it is not well-designed desktop, and I can argue that. So yet again, I'm really sorry. I hope you will accept my apologies. My best wishes, Piotr.

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These are my first attempts to translate the OP posts.

My translation is

- My scripts, are located in $HOME/bin (directory should be added to PATH)
- for the convenience, I use aliases for installpkg/updatepkg/removepkg

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Let say this is something like that, my comments are marked by # (as in bash scripts)
///////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Trinity TDE for Slackware by Russian physicists
Legs, Wings - but the first - tail! # kind of saying

description of packages, setup, virtualBox image, installation in text file


Reads as
- packages for Slackware-14.2 x64

Reads as
- added kpowersave + hal, for kpowersave to work - hal have to be running, ie /etc/rc.d/rc.hal needs to be executable
- hal-dependent packages are collected together in directory "4.hal", by default this is not installed by "tde_all_install.sh", if needed - installation is done by executing "4.hal.sh"
- there is native replacement for kpowersave - tdepowersave (does not require HAL), so there is no need to install HAL-packages
Means
setup to void system - order of installation and setup on "void" machine

Reads as
//
// preparation setup of tools/scripts
//

- download add.*/add.txz # I am not quite sure about this, russian word used can be technical term,
- extract contents "bin.*" in ~/bin directory
- verify that directory is in PATH variable
$ echo $PATH | grep $HOME/bin
- if there is no path in variable PATH, add into bash local config file (~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc):
PATH=$HOME/bin:${PATH}

Reads as

commands/scripts necessary, used by install scripts (also for general use in terminal, or creating users scripts)
- check_slack_ver.sh
- pkg
- pkgfile
- pkgls
- pkgrm
- pkgup
- update_cache.sh
- font_cache_update.sh


Reads as

//
// installation all TDE packages
//

Reads as
//
// Stoping services # not clear for me these services are not needed or there is conflict
//

# So due to OP avahi, postgres, wireless, should be stopped but why tor? This seems to be senseless.
# Maybe I am paranoic but this makes me suspicious, maybe these packages is malware?
# So run it in secure network environment, watch network activity, and post if you will find something unusual

Yet again technical term. I try my best

//
// enable/disable optional applets in autostart
//

Reads
/etc/autostart/* in other directories we setup what is needed
(for using only TDE - I deleted everything in other directories)

Reads

After reboot we verify that there is an option for TDE-session in KDM (is present in the session list)

Reads
//
// edit/replace rc.4, we setup TDM (in place of KDM)
//

This is the first part the next will come soon (excuse me it is tea time)

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It may have not been the most polite method, but the forum rules do state that all posts should be in English. Rules are rules. There are many international members who do not use English as their primary language, yet they still post in English. Alien Bob is from the Netherlands, and he uses English just like everyone else.

But I'm glad that this project has somebody behind it. Hopefully there can be some translations so more people will be able to use it.

For my knowledge Alien Bob is professional. In his job English is a must. I think that question of language has roots in the history of this forum. Maybe it is time to move on and start to think about posts in other languages. Why not? Rules are rules, but they are not something which cannot be changed.

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Well, this is something you'd have to take up with the forum administration. It is not a Slackware forum. It is a forum whose administration allows Slackware to have a subforum for users to provide other users support.

But even if it was the Slackware forum, keep in mind that Slackware itself does not much extra to have i18n or l10n support beyond what programs already provide (the Slackware installer and utilities all lack support for non-English languages).

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This is a Linux Questions web site with a rule that its discussions are in the english language. If you want to discuss things in another language (russian, ukranian, polish, portuguese, etc) then I am sure there are other places for that. Ask for a sub-forum here on LQ, dedicated to a specific language, if you want. But I will not use google translate to try and grasp the meaning of someone who is not willing (or able) to communicate in this forum's language. Language is a real, existing barrier. Google translate is nothing more and nothing less than replacing that barrier with a swamp. It is not going to help anyone.

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People willing to cooperate trying to remove barriers and obstacles. Your attitude is simple xenophobic. I my joke that if the Western World won't start to learn Russian then it will be defeated in the next coming war. There is great misunderstanding what actually Russia is or what is not. Maybe if you will have such knowledge possible you will be more willing to cooperate with OP. It is always good to learn something new.

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igadoter,

alienbob made a valid point, although not in the nicest way. Let's not bring this discussion any further.

Here is the next part of translation

//
// user interface/settings
//

start TDE, installation font/aliasing/anti-aliasing - on screenshot
fonts/fonts_set.jpg

Reads as

//
// additionally KDEnLive (to see the attic (or loft)) # rather idiomatic, the meaning is not direct
//

cd ./KDEnLive.x64
./kdenlive.sh

not tested, if errors appear, kdenlive - is not seeing
libdev, even if already installed, there was no time
looking at details, use "as it is" - # word нафих is widely used on russian websites, but I have no idea what it means

p.s.
I will be grateful, if specialists will help me to find why "libdev is not seen" # instead of specialists you can say'gurus'

//
// !!! ATTENTION !!!
//
packaging/tests/installatio TDE where done in vbox on top of Slackware-14.2 x64

http://www.slackware.com/getslack/torrents.php
http://www.slackware.com/torrents/sl...ll-dvd.torrent
slackware-14.2-x64.iso

in system are incorporated/replaced libraries (patched with) "cleare-patch"
- cairo-1.14.6-x86_64-sl14.2_TDE_cleartype
- libXft-2.3.1-x86_64-sl14.2_TDE_cleartype
- freetype-2.6.3-x86_64-sl14.2_TDE_ft2_render_hint

I hope, that you will like "new regular and beautiful" fonts, with correct antialiasing
Multilib from Alien (not used in vbox, but in future, on real computer
will be useful

At this there is multlib-verision of changed system libraries, 64
system - is complete, but x32 applications, will have worse look
(due to lack of clear-font patch)
on desktop/workstation system was not tested, but previous similar packaging TDE
worked fine (almost high rocket fly) on "live laptop" # I am not sure about this live laptop, it can as well idiom
- TDE-14.0.1 x32
- notebook Compaq NX6100 / Core2 Duo Processor / Slackware-14.1x32 #laptop is as old as mine so "live laptop"
# is rather sarcastic, "stil alive"
works quite fine (smart), comparing to modern notebook on base of Intel i5 and Windows 7 # neither i5 nor w7 are quite modern


//
// fonts
//
- fonts.tar.xz
fonts, extract in home folder ~/.fonts

- tde_add_fonts-R14.0.4-noarch-sl14.2_TDE.txz
system package with these same fonts, but installed globally
in system folder

if not needed, remove from folder "2.tde_core" (remove into "off" folder),
by default is with other packages, as is done "system installation"
in start/debug

both packages contain the same fonts families, former - is local, latter global
what to install - choice is yours (I prefer local setting)

add/fonts/user_set.tar.xz
- folder with local fonts/gtk (/.gtkrc*, .Xresource), discard in home folder

//
// bin
//

add/bin.tar.xz
- my scripts, put contents in home folder ~/bin (needs to be added to PATH)
- to make life easier I use aliases for installpkg/updatepkg/removepkg

all имхо... # it's abbreviation, Russians love abbreviations, CIA, DC, NSA, DEA, IMO, OP, etc.... we love'm too


I will continue ..or ..you are completely bored..Then I won't

I just realized translation is not very good, if I would have chance to do install myself, then it will be more clear for me. I regret, but I don't have installed 64 bit version of Slackware.

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