Slackware 'current' has always had periods of low activity, occasionally extended ones like we're seeing now. It can be a little unnerving, but its not unprecedented, so I wouldn't read anything into it.

it's not as bad as it looks
worst case if the couple projects providing the "functionality" that systemd has appropriated dissapear, the debian "shim" approach could be taken
there is also the fact that so far only one program actually depends on it, and it's not in slackware

people just like to express their opinion (yell a lot)
sometimes it is needed, sometimes that is unclear

Everything the shim runs on Slackware is still ran by ConsoleKit and that, even though officially unmaintained, still works.

The systemd fanboiz are always going to come out and there's no shortage of them here that like to gang up on me. Nothing new known.

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The first part of this thread was fun.

Alas, it seems that too many posters take themselves too seriously to keep it so.

As Socrates once said: "life is too short to take it seriously"[1]

[1] Can't find the source of that quote? Remember the old saying: Se non è vero, è ben trovato.

google says it was Oscar Wilde

but i know it from a graphiti collection, that contains other gems like:
-i'm not interested in fame and money. I'm just interested in money
-get your hand out of my panties !! I will count to 1 000 000
-better six hours in school then not sleep at all
-hearth attack. However it is, it is from the hearth
-drive safe, drive a tank
-don't drink water, fish f*ck in it
-who lies steals, who steals has, who has be hes friend
-it's good that beer does not leave coffe stains
-i used to be indecisive, but maybe i'm not
-a pipe is a rod with a hole dragged through it
-die young and make a nice corpse
-we must silence those that are against free speech
-who waits goes insane waiting
-she was a good girl, some loved her, some multiple times
-don't be superstitious, it brings bad luck
-the only difference between philosophy and graphiti is the word fuck
-smoking shortens your cigarette
-on a bar door: don't trow cigarette buds on the floor, the roaches are getting cancer
-better seven times with snow white, then one time with the seven dwarves
-they always catch me when im writing gra~
-all mushrooms are edible, but some just once
-eat sh?t, millions of flies cant be wrong
-lord give me patience, but do it quick
-eat a live frog in the morning and nothing worse will happen to you that day

and one of my fav
(some meaning might be lost in translation)

PS emacs was upgraded recently in -current
it has a web browser now

One of the first phrases I learned in English language was "no news is good news" (language textbooks are hella random at times), and to this day it happens to be one of my favorites, in any language.

Riding the bleeding edge of software can be fun, but when it all boils down to it, you have to have stability above everything else. If there is no stability, then it's all for nothing. If software works, it works, and if it doesn't then you have a problem and often regressions in software are needed to find stability.

Newer has never meant better.

It's like trying to say 0+0=1 when without a doubt you have to have 0+1 or 1+0 to equal 1. The math has to work, and you can't fudge the math.

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...unless you're a theoretical physicist: in which case you just add a variable "X" to your equations and then propose that: "X" clearly must exist because it balances your equations, but no one can see it because it's... er.. Dark, yes.. that's it... "Dark Fudge!".

Now, I would go on to give you a copy of my paper which shows that "Systemd sucks", but the proof depends on the existence of "Dark Slack" (or the "Bob" particle as some like to call it), which we're not able to detect yet, because it's... er.. Dark. But, I'm sure it's out there!

I've always liked, "Can't see the wood for all of the trees". That the word 'wood' could refer to either a collection of trees, or the material the trees are made of and therefore the phrase could mean that you're either looking at something too closely, or not nearly close enough, I find particularly pleasing.

Also, it's the opening line of "What Kind of Fool" by All About Eve, which I'm particularly fond of too.

Even theoretical physicist have a limitation when it comes to the event horizon in a black hole.
If my memory serves me correctly once the event horizon is reached there isn't any kind of mathematics that can go behind that horizon to prove anything.

It's a singularity. This is where a object in math is not defined-
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singula...mathematics%29

I think the real question still remains.
Is Slackware going to be effected by systemd or is it not?
Could it be that those that developed systemd force Pat's hand to except this? (it's possible)

I sincerely think what the motive that is behind the driving force the "systemd agenda" will determine if systemd is going to happen to Slackware or not. What will be gained? (besides profit)
(the devil is in the details)

-:-Like GazL said it's like dark fudge-:-

Unless your a Time Lord I don't see the light at the end of the tunnel as far as this is going to be a definite yes, that this will happen to Slackware.

-:-This thread has become very intriguing and informative as well-:-

Even for a relative and theoretical physicist, 0+0 (if integers are in a state of absolute) can never equal anything but Absolute 0. There is no x value in an absolute equation unless you would classify it openly as 0+0+x=1. Even Steven Hawking can't get around absolute values without adding another absolute, even if theorized or imaginary value, to the equation. I think even Michio Kaku said on one of his Discovery Channel ventures that in order for 1 to exist, it must have always existed as part of the equation if the value is absolute, imaginary, or even theoretical.

One of my favourites, seen in a toilet cubicle:

"If you feel strongly about graffiti please sign the partition"



Emacs is an incredible feat of human engineering. Going back to vi(m) now would be like going back to the Stone Age!

Yup, Michio Kaku is one of my fav Theoretical Physicist's.

Thanks!

I think you're taking my comments a little too seriously. It was a little humour, poking a little light fun at our scientists and their need to create the concepts of Dark [ matter | energy | flow | <insert wacky idea here> | etc..]. i.e. imaginary stuff that no one can actually see, or prove exists.

Given that people don't seem to be able to see this either, I think I must have stumbled upon Dark Humour!

(yes, another pun, but I'm starting to wonder why I even bother.)

:)

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