SystemD
 

> Additional threads created for the sole purpose of arguing over systemd will result in
> closures and/or bans.

So why does jeremy want to ban discussion?

Why is it now forbidden to discuss about systemD?

Controversies exist everywhere, all the time.

At which point has it been up to a single individual to attempt to censor our opinion?

See the other lively discussion that was flat-out cancelled by him.

We should be able to discuss against the personal preferences of a single person.

We can keep it civil and have arguments too - if there are individuals who are not
civil then it should be those individuals who are punished, not the whole discussion
group.

People require educated information about the pros and cons of systemd and whether
slackware will force its users to adopt it or whether it will remain free, giving
the users the possibility of choice.

Perhaps he's bored of those threads.

I know I am...

This is a divisive topic, that causes a LOT of extra work (unpaid moderators) for those who monitor this forum. You have types that could have an honest discussion, as well as those who just want to argue, then you have those who tend to get personal/insultive, etc.
Do you go over to your parents house to argue with people that you never met and cause your parents to have to deal with you and those other people? You say, their house, their rules?
You have some valid thoughts, but your punishing him/them/moderators, by not following the AGREED to rules of the forum (terms of service) where you agree to censorship.

Eventually, I would expect to see some calm discussion, but personally, I think it is going to be a while, because I think it needs to develop (and see the direction it develops, as it may change some kind of course over time), before any meaningful discussion.

Oh, my...

This "man" contest the Jeremy rights to "say so" in His Own Ranch in the name of "democracy".

If the OP have claims about Jeremy's ownership/"dictatorship", I propose this thread to be moved to a more useful section, having no connection with Slackware! I.e. "funny people".

BTW, Jeremy is the Owner of The Land, man! If you don't like his opinions, why the hell come in his Ranch?

I just reported the first post this way:

@shevegen

Just go to another site and discuss it there. You have the freedom to do that.

Oh yeah, yet ANOTHER systemd thread in Slackware section, great!

Because these six-or-seven ones with about 400 pages (combined) filled with flamewars weren't enough.

Systemd is great!
I mean no, systemd sucks big time!

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You must be new here.

Jeremy owns the place. He pays the bills. He should have the last word about everything. I know i agree with him about this one.

Slackware will go its own way anyhow...

Clearly, this lad has balls like a Tanuki ...

Discussion of systemd in Slackware is non-existent due to the fact Patrick is staying with bsd-style sysvinit for now, and we already have a systemd spinoff with Dlackware which has made several contributions back to the main project.

If you want systemd, get Bartgymnast's Dlackware, please. Try it out, see if it's for you, if not, go back to the main Slackware distribution. I will say, many have tried it, some like it, and some don't.

I won't say my view on it, no need to, but try it for yourself before passing judgment. See where you stand on it, and then make your decision.

That's all there is to it. End of discussion.

Systemd is not the unix way - but it may turn out to be the Linux way.

Systemd is backed by a commercial Linux company - they can make money out of selling service contracts.

I, personally, don't like or want it, but others seem to.

As long as there remains freedom to not have to use it, we remain able to choose for ourselves, but if programs become tied to it, we lose our freedom of choice.

If you wish to discuss why Jeremy has stopped discussions of SystemD here then please raise that question in the Suggestions & Feedback forum or email him directly through the Contact links. This is Jeremy's domain and therefore he has final say over what goes on here - remember, no one has to pay money to be a member and no one is paid by LQ to answer questions.

Because of the results of previous threads on this subject it has been decided not to discuss them and therefore this thread is now closed.