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Old 11-05-2020, 03:18 AM   #601
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It's nothing new, it's gossip that is stale and out of date. I've already read about it in this very thread.
Its not as I made clear from the outset. However, all of the "coverage" here has been from the angle that "the OpenBSD project" worked on this port, as per the approach and argument of the pale moon people. That's false.

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And I'm not sugggesting anything, just saying you're being salty over nothing since you're not even a user of their product.
And seriously, just because you have more trust and respect for nanny browsers such as firefox or chrome, it doesn't mean everyone should.
I had not realised that only users / fans were entitled to post critique and facts about such projects?

You're also painting me as a fan of chromium / firefox without any foundation to those claims.
 
Old 11-05-2020, 04:58 AM   #602
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I've been a big fan of Pale Moon, but, as you said, it has been "breaking" on more and more web sites. From the web site of a major supermarket chain to the local registrar of voters. Sometimes you can access a site, but do little else. Sometimes a site appears and then refuses to completely load the page. The biggest consistent problem has been not being able to see what I've typed into a box on the page, e.g., a search field.
If you run it from a terminal does it spit out anything useful when you visit those pages?
 
Old 11-05-2020, 05:25 AM   #603
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Its not as I made clear from the outset. However, all of the "coverage" here has been from the angle that "the OpenBSD project" worked on this port, as per the approach and argument of the pale moon people. That's false.


I had not realised that only users / fans were entitled to post critique and facts about such projects?

You're also painting me as a fan of chromium / firefox without any foundation to those claims.

What i read in your previous post is that everyone should think twice before using the software because:
1. The developers were somewhat rude in the past.
2. The developers can't seem to get their facts straight about OpenBSD ports relation to OpenBSD project.
3. They've requested that the project must be rebranded if modified, and what the ports maintainer did was disregard that request.

So I don't understand is how does this concern the users, and why should they question their browser choice.

I would understand if you were a user and had a bug which they've marked wontfix.
But how does one 'fix' the developers? I don't think using their product requires that you must be in contact with them.

So my opinion is that you're posting gossip, like old ladies do when they want to discredit someone they personally don't like.
 
Old 11-05-2020, 05:43 AM   #604
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The developers immediately rounded on a private individual (assuming they were dealing with a project), citing trademark law less than 24 hours after he had started an effort to port the browser, openly seeking their collaboration... their rudeness wasn't a factor.

The prospective port maintainer wasn't even at the point where he was going to release anything, nor was he maintaining a port - he went to the project first to discuss coordinating patches. You either need to fact check before spouting nonsense.

Personally I think you're just wounded by any critique of your top favourite web browser... hence why you're being so disingenuous about this and resorting to immature slurs. It's wholly your problem, if you've taken offence at that post, directed at software you don't even play a part in developing...

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Old 11-05-2020, 06:24 AM   #605
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The developers immediately rounded on a private individual (assuming they were dealing with a project), citing trademark law less than 24 hours after he had started an effort to port the browser, openly seeking their collaboration... their rudeness wasn't a factor.

The prospective port maintainer wasn't even at the point where he was going to release anything, nor was he maintaining a port - he went to the project first to discuss coordinating patches. You either need to fact check before spouting nonsense.
So again, how does this concern users, and why should they reconsider using the browser?

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Personally I think you're just wounded by any critique of your top favourite web browser... hence why you're being so disingenuous about this and resorting to immature slurs. It's wholly your problem, if you've taken offence at that post, directed at software you don't even play a part in developing...
Well I'm not the one being salty about stuff that I can't change, so how do you assume I've taken offense?
For me it's pretty simple, I just don't care. If you care enough to post about this old news, you're the one being offended.
Not only offended, but since the drama you've posted is so old it also means you're holding a grudge.

As far as the browser goes, and my involvement with it; I'd just rebrand the thing and consider it unsupported, just like many other projects.
 
Old 11-05-2020, 08:52 AM   #606
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For me it's pretty simple, I just don't care.
You look like you do care.

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Not only offended, but since the drama you've posted is so old it also means you're holding a grudge.
Except I didn't know about the incident at all until I posted about it... I don't follow pale moon development, so was unaware. I came across it all indirectly via a rant posted on the OpenBSD mailing misc list. So your "grudge" theory doesn't hold water - and once again you're conjuring up various strawmen, with grudges, who like to gossip, who prefer "nanny" browsers, etc... all in defence of your top favourite browser. Again it's unfortunate that you are offended and that you chose to retaliate and go on the defensive. As I said - your problem, not mine.
 
Old 11-05-2020, 11:21 AM   #607
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@onebuck Can this thread be re-titled to technical issues, and release information, like the XFCE thread? The title on this thread is probably misleading and invites posters with chips on their shoulders, or are generally of a contrary nature, to start flame wars about the benefits of one application over another. Those arguments are a waste of time for readers who are looking for technical insights to an application running on Slackware. I also like it when the title specifically says "current" or "stable" especially now that "stable" is becoming more of an archive and most threads are about issues with current. Cheers, BrianA_MN
 
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You look like you do care.
I really don't.
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Except I didn't know about the incident at all until I posted about it...
I don't buy this, since it was discussed in this thread already when it was news, now you're just beating a dead horse.
Take it up with developers if you got a problem with what they did back then and how.
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As I said - your problem, not mine.
And as I already said, I don't have a single problem with them, or you. I simply don't give a toss.
 
Old 11-05-2020, 01:17 PM   #609
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I have no reason to lie. Its safe to assume that if I'd been aware I'd have been a participant in the thread and would have already discussed it.

If you didn't care you wouldn't be posting again and again in response like a wounded fanboi.
 
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If you didn't care you wouldn't be posting again and again in response like a wounded fanboi.
So I guess posting=caring for you? Don't think that's the case, I could be doing it because of plain boredom.
I accept the fact you have issues with how things are done upstream, just disappointed there isn't any new gossip that I haven't already seen.
 
Old 11-24-2020, 08:34 AM   #611
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Pale Moon v28.16.0 (2020-11-24) is now available.
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This is a development and security update to the browser.

Note for Linux users: With CentOS 6 going end-of-life, this version will be the last for which we will be building 32-bit Linux official binaries to download. While your distribution may choose to continue offering 32-bit versions of the browser, built from source by the maintainers, we won't be offering any further official 32-bit Linux binaries on our website. Please check with your distribution's package maintainers to know if further 32-bit support will be available on your particular flavor of Linux.
The change log and download links can be found at,
https://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml
 
Old 12-18-2020, 06:19 PM   #612
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Pale Moon v28.17.0 is now available.

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This is a development, bugfix and security update.

Changes/fixes:
Changed the way dates and times are formatted in the UI to properly adhere to the user's regional settings in the O.S.
Re-enabled the DOM Filesystem API for web compatibility.
Moved the global user-agent override to the networking component. See implementation notes.
Worked around crashes and run-time issues with module scripts. See implementation notes.
Fixed a website layout issue with table-styled elements potentially overlapping when placed inside a flexbox.
Fixed some code logic issues with websockets.
Fixed a regression when waking the computer from standby causing high CPU usage in some uncommon situations.
Updated the list of prohibited ports the browser can use. See implementation notes.
Updated root certificates.
Windows: Changed the way downloaded files without an extension are handled. See implementation notes.
Mac-beta: Improved version detection of MacOS including Big Sur.
Security issues addressed: CVE-2020-26978 and CVE-2020-35112.
Unified XUL Platform Mozilla Security Patch Summary: 2 fixed, 1 deferred to the next release, 16 not applicable.
https://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml
 
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