[SOLVED] Some thoughts on Pale Moon vs Firefox

elcore · 12-12-2019, 07:11 AM

Just grabbed 28.8.0 src today, compiled on x86_64 - it builds and runs ok, but installer's somewhat broken. More or less.

Thing is, this file & directory removal/reshuffle:

Quote:

Moved the embedded font for Emoji from application to platform so all UXP applications can easily benefit from it (thanks Tobin!).

Could've been done so that the installer can find the new location, and not fail like:

Code:

Error: /storage/obj-palemoon/application/palemoon/installer/package-manifest:45: Missing file(s): bin/fonts/*
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/storage/UXP-PM28.8.0_Release/toolkit/mozapps/installer/packager.py", line 416, in <module>
    main()
  File "/storage/UXP-PM28.8.0_Release/toolkit/mozapps/installer/packager.py", line 367, in main
    copier.add(mozpath.join(respath, 'removed-files'), removals)
  File "/usr/lib64/python2.7/contextlib.py", line 24, in __exit__
    self.gen.next()
  File "/storage/UXP-PM28.8.0_Release/python/mozbuild/mozpack/errors.py", line 131, in accumulate
    raise AccumulatedErrors()
mozpack.errors.AccumulatedErrors
/storage/UXP-PM28.8.0_Release/toolkit/mozapps/installer/packager.mk:41: recipe for target 'stage-package' failed
make[1]: *** [stage-package] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory '/storage/obj-palemoon/application/palemoon/installer'
/storage/UXP-PM28.8.0_Release/application/palemoon/build.mk:24: recipe for target 'install' failed
make: *** [install] Error 2

So my workaround is to get those removed fonts from 27.x, store them in $CWD and do this:

Code:

cp -R $CWD/old/fonts $TMP/$OBJ/dist/bin/

.. in the SlackBuild, right before doing:

Code:

make install DESTDIR=$PKG

Could probably be done by patching the manifest too, but whatever.

cwizardone · 12-12-2019, 07:23 AM

I just un-tarred, as user, the package (bzipped tarball)

http://linux.palemoon.org/download/mainline/

into its own directory and it runs perfectly.
The last few versions had trouble with the location finder on the Accuweather web site, but 28.8 works as it should. No problems on any site I have visited.

Board Member Khronosschoty will, most likely, provide Slackware packages in the near future.

http://repo.khronosschoty.org/Slackware/Pale-Moon/

cwizardone · 12-16-2019, 05:24 PM

Board Member Khronosschoty's PaleMoon-28.8 Slackware packages are now available for Slackware-14.2 and -current.
http://repo.khronosschoty.org/Slackware/Pale-Moon/

cwizardone · 01-11-2020, 03:30 PM

Quote:

11 Jan 2020
Pale Moon 28.8.1 has been released.
This is an important security update. Please update to this version as soon as possible. More information in the release notes!

The release notes,

Quote:

v28.8.1 (2020-01-11)
This is an important security and stability release. Please update your browser to this version as soon as possible.

Changes/fixes:

Fixed a sampling issue in libsoundtouch (DiD)
Fixed an issue with a new upcoming Windows 10 feature not honoring Private Browsing mode by default (DiD)
Fixed several stability and memory safety hazards. (DiD)
Fixed an issue where files could inadvertently be executed with the designated file type handler instead of opened. (CVE-2019-17019)
Fixed an issue with the JavaScript JIT compiler that could lead to exploitable crashes. (CVE-2019-17026) actively exploited
Unified XUL Platform Mozilla Security Patch Summary: 2 fixed, 7 DiD, 12 not applicable.

https://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Quote:

General note:
DiD This means that a fix is "Defense-in-Depth": It is a fix that does not apply to a (potentially) actively exploitable vulnerability in Pale Moon, but prevents future vulnerabilities caused by the same code, e.g. when surrounding code changes, exposing the problem, or when new attack vectors are discovered.

cwizardone · 01-20-2020, 06:14 PM

Board Member Khronosschoty's PaleMoon-28.8.1 Slackware packages are now available for Slackware-14.2 and -current.
http://repo.khronosschoty.org/Slackware/Pale-Moon/

elcore · 01-21-2020, 03:42 AM

uBlock origin dev has moved legacy releases from github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases to github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy/releases
Looks like it's still maintained, but I missed a few releases since they were placed in separate repository.
Last one was 4 days ago, v1.16.4.15 it works fine with PM28.8.1

cwizardone · 01-28-2020, 11:53 AM

Quote:

28 Jan 2020
Pale Moon 28.8.2 has been released. This is a small bugfix and compatibility release. More information in the release notes!

The release notes,

Quote:

Changes/fixes:
Reverted the addition of JavaScript regular expression lookarounds since the implementation caused crashes. We'll have to revisit this later.
Fixed an issue where FTP servers would hang the browser if they were not sending answers according to the protocol specification.
Added a workaround for GitHub trying to enforce more Google-isms (which we don't support at this time) to browsers that identify as "Firefox-alike".

https://www.palemoon.org/releasenotes.shtml

Jeebizz · 02-03-2020, 11:49 PM

I do not know what sort of retardation youtube is up to now, since I am running 28.8.2... smh

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Checked the Pale Moon forums - seems it is a UA issue, and this is the supposed fix:

Code:

general.useragent.override.youtube.com the value (on Linux) is Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/42.0 PaleMoon/28.8.0

https://forum.palemoon.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=23566

cwizardone · 02-04-2020, 07:33 AM

Just ran into the same notice on YouTube.
To fix it I looked at the string in the most recent firefox in -current and made two changes to the string for youtube in
palemoon.
In the string shown in post #548, above, simply change, 42.0 to, 52.9, in both places and save the changes.

The preference name,
general.useragent.override.youtube.com

The string (value),
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.9 PaleMoon/28.8.2

Jeebizz · 02-04-2020, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwizardone

Just ran into the same notice on YouTube.
To fix it I looked at the string in the most recent firefox in -current and made two changes to the string for youtube in
palemoon.
In the string shown in post #548, above, simply change, 42.0 to, 52.9, in both places and save the changes.

The preference name,
general.useragent.override.youtube.com

The string (value),
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.9) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.9 PaleMoon/28.8.2

The solution works, but now the landing youtube page looks like shit imo... I don't like the bigger images at all, which is also what I get when playing videos taking up nearly entire screen - ugh thats what full screen is for this to me just looks dumb.

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Also yes, I am in default mode and not in theater mode which at this point again seems moot to me as there is not much difference - plus the entire site seems laggy now; maybe that could be blamed on Pale Moon, but prior to this I had no such issues.

cwizardone · 02-04-2020, 10:30 AM

Not Pale Moon, as I don't have that problem.
YouTube looks the same regardless of what browser I use.

cwizardone · 02-05-2020, 12:05 PM

Here you go,

Quote:

04 Feb 2020
Pale Moon 28.8.2.1 has been released.
This is a minor release for compatibility with YouTube.
More information in the release notes!

The release notes,

Quote:

This is a minor release in response to YouTube deprecating their old web UI. This change will enable the new YouTube UI by default.

Jeebizz · 02-05-2020, 12:07 PM

I hate the new youtube UI.

elcore · 02-06-2020, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeebizz

I hate the new youtube UI.

Same here, can't stand it. Every single UI they make requires more and more CPU, I gave up at some point where it has eaten 80% CPU when idle. There are bitcoin miners which use less CPU.
I think the last good youtube interface was the old UI they used to serve to people having IE6 useragent string, that one was ok. Not sure if that's still available, probably not.

Anyway, I stopped using it some time ago, because it doesn't seem to work anymore without BGP, and local BGP in my area is 1.) overloaded in peak hours and 2.) filled with useless stuff I don't want to see.
BGP is the worst kind of server, I firewall it out of my network. Now I just use a proxy if I want to see the tube, usually once or twice per month I go to proxfree and listen to some new music they have cached.
The official site I have blocked in hosts file for quite some time now, because of all the forum embedding.

Jeebizz · 02-06-2020, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elcore

Same here, can't stand it. Every single UI they make requires more and more CPU, I gave up at some point where it has eaten 80% CPU when idle. There are bitcoin miners which use less CPU.
I think the last good youtube interface was the old UI they used to serve to people having IE6 useragent string, that one was ok. Not sure if that's still available, probably not.

Anyway, I stopped using it some time ago, because it doesn't seem to work anymore without BGP, and local BGP in my area is 1.) overloaded in peak hours and 2.) filled with useless stuff I don't want to see.
BGP is the worst kind of server, I firewall it out of my network. Now I just use a proxy if I want to see the tube, usually once or twice per month I go to proxfree and listen to some new music they have cached.
The official site I have blocked in hosts file for quite some time now, because of all the forum embedding.

What is worse is there is no more flash being used, so there should not be any excuse for such high usage of the CPU. I also noticed this when watching livestreams, it starts to briefly cause Pale Moon to hang initially. Also now I can't watch livestreams on gaming.youtube.com it just goes back to youtube.com - which sucks because gaming.youtube.com essentially gave you a dark theme, and also the chat window with the entire page, had no effect on the CPU and of course youtube scrapped that.