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Old 06-12-2018, 11:16 AM   #391
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I discovered Pale Moon some time ago, but didn't really like it, because a) it was missing some features I really liked with Firefox, and b) Firefox was still (mostly) acceptable, in terms of performance. Now, I'm sorry to say, that is no longer true, and the recent discussions of Pale Moon on here and the SlackBuilds on SBo make it quasi-official: Firefox sucks. I've not wanted to say anything before now, but even I have noticed the slow performance of Firefox, and wondered why recent releases have suffered from code bloat. I remember the introduction of Firefox in 2004, and marveled at the lean codebase it was back then. Of course, it was the work of one individual, before a large group got ahold of it. Now, it's become a mega-monolith of web features. I don't know about anyone else, but I thought that web browsing was supposed to be fast. Some browsers remind me of Microsoft Office in their slow startup times.

I think that the addition of Pale Moon is the best thing for Slackware, since it adheres to an earlier time, before Mozilla went off on a tangent. I really like Pale Moon's fast startup time, smooth responsiveness, and relatively small memory footprint. This is the browser that will remain in residence on my computer for the foreseeable future.
It's been awhile since I posted an update to this thread, and all I have to say is *WOW!* Who knew that a thread I started about discontent with mainstream Firefox a little over a year ago would have proven to be as popular as it is? Certainly not I...

In the time since I posted this, I found that PaleMoon's handling of DownThemAll, IMO the best download manager out there hands down, was sub-par. Since recent releases of Firefox have proven to be incompatible with DownThemAll, and it's not clear when, if ever, the add-on will be updated to be compatible, I have been on the prowl to find forks of Firefox that a) handles DownThemAll to my liking, b) doesn't bloat to gargantuan proportions, and c) respects my right to privacy.

Enter Cyberfox.

On a whim, I decided to try Cyberfox, and found that all three criterion were satisfied. As my second post detailed, I modified an existing Firefox SlackBuild to meet my needs for PaleMoon, and I followed more or less the same steps to get the SlackBuild to package Cyberfox.

Now, I'm not saying anyone should change their choice of browser if they are satisfied with the way it performs; I'm just putting this out there as the OP of this thread, letting people know about alternatives.

Just my
 
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Old 06-12-2018, 11:34 AM   #392
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It's been awhile since I posted an update to this thread, and all I have to say is *WOW!* Who knew that a thread I started about discontent with mainstream Firefox a little over a year ago would have proven to be as popular as it is? Certainly not I...

In the time since I posted this, I found that PaleMoon's handling of DownThemAll, IMO the best download manager out there hands down, was sub-par. Since recent releases of Firefox have proven to be incompatible with DownThemAll, and it's not clear when, if ever, the add-on will be updated to be compatible, I have been on the prowl to find forks of Firefox that a) handles DownThemAll to my liking, b) doesn't bloat to gargantuan proportions, and c) respects my right to privacy.

Enter Cyberfox.

On a whim, I decided to try Cyberfox, and found that all three criterion were satisfied. As my second post detailed, I modified an existing Firefox SlackBuild to meet my needs for PaleMoon, and I followed more or less the same steps to get the SlackBuild to package Cyberfox.

Now, I'm not saying anyone should change their choice of browser if they are satisfied with the way it performs; I'm just putting this out there as the OP of this thread, letting people know about alternatives.

Just my
My only question is this about CyberFox, will it honor my GTK+3 theme, or will it spit in its face and use its own theme like brave, waterfox does?
 
Old 06-12-2018, 12:48 PM   #393
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My only question is this about CyberFox, will it honor my GTK+3 theme, or will it spit in its face and use its own theme like brave, waterfox does?
I cannot say for sure, but I think it does.
 
Old 06-12-2018, 12:58 PM   #394
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I cannot say for sure, but I think it does.
It doesn't, I can choose dark themes to sorta go with my color scheme I have - but it won't just use the default color scheme I am using for LXDE like PaleMoon does.

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Old 06-12-2018, 06:42 PM   #395
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Cyberfox looks nice! I hope someone picks up the project when the original developer stops working on it.

https://8pecxstudios.com/Forums/view...tart=80#p12427

Ironic that folks in that thread are talking about migrating to Pale Moon!
 
Old 06-12-2018, 07:00 PM   #396
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Ironic that folks in that thread are talking about migrating to Pale Moon!
Well, I guess you can say I am one of the few staunch PaleMoon users then because of my GTK+3 issue.
 
Old 06-12-2018, 08:26 PM   #397
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I'll be sticking with it, too, at least for a while .. I don't know if Basilisk is going to do it for me.
 
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It looks like Palemoon has decided to downgrade internal libraries used such as NSS to old and insecure versions...what's up with that? Upstream seems to be on 3.37.3 now.

https://github.com/MoonchildProducti...8a25af79ba1940

Another example is NSPR which they reverted to to 4.16 while upstream is 4.19.

https://github.com/MoonchildProducti...424b751b9295d6

And they even downgraded the tls version used?

https://github.com/MoonchildProducti...28ff339dc6dcb6

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Old 06-17-2018, 01:45 PM   #399
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Is Palemoon the only remaining linux browser that will play java applets?
 
Old 06-17-2018, 01:58 PM   #400
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Is Palemoon the only remaining linux browser that will play java applets?
btw its Pale Moon not Palemoon. (In case you care to know)
 
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I just followed the spelling of every other post on this page...but I see you are correct. My Pale Moon identifies itself that way in the About window.
 
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Old 06-17-2018, 02:39 PM   #402
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I just followed the spelling of every other post on this page...but I see you are correct. My Pale Moon identifies itself that way in the About window.
Some people do it out of disrespect, intentionally; and others just mimic them. Everyone, is free to do what they want; I just thought to mention it.
 
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Some people do it out of disrespect, intentionally; and others just mimic them. Everyone, is free to do what they want; I just thought to mention it.
Disrespect? According to who? If I wanted to disrespect Pale Moon I would call it something like "Dark Fart".

And according to your disrespect theory, the palemoon.SlackBuild(s) should be named different because that is disrespectful.

I'm not trying to start an argument, just pointing out that there is no disrespect in calling it "Palemoon".
If Mr Straver gets butt hurt about it, he just needs to grow up.

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Old 06-17-2018, 03:23 PM   #404
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Disrespect? According to who? If I wanted to disrespect Pale Moon I would call it something like "Dark Fart".
I did not accuse you did I?

I think your making a lot assumptions; and, I'm not going to spend the time to clear it up. Again no one accused you.

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Old 06-17-2018, 03:30 PM   #405
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I did not accuse you did I?

I think your making a lot assumptions and I'm not going to spend the time to clear it up.
I never said you did. Just my
 
  


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