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Old 02-15-2018, 01:22 PM   #241
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Skaendo --

What is HOSTS ?

Do you mean to 'manually add localhost entries for nasty sites to /etc/hosts' or is there a PlugIn -or- AddOn for PaleMoon called HOSTS ?

Thanks !

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I always manually updated /etc/hosts

It could probably be scripted and cron'd, but the list that I was using only gets updated every other month or so.

http://hosts-file.net/

Edit: I guess that the site says that it can be used with adblockers, but I would think that it would be better to use the hosts file.

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Old 02-15-2018, 01:27 PM   #242
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I tried it and I was seeing ads flash on the pages before they were blocked.
Sorry for your troubles, but I have not witness any such thing since using it. I was using ABP before switching. I do use HOSTS files on my Windows machine and they too work really well.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 01:36 PM   #243
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Sorry for your troubles, but I have not witness any such thing since using it. I was using ABP before switching. I do use HOSTS files on my Windows machine and they too work really well.
Meh, I was just the other day trying out a bunch of different adblockers on Basilisk and decided to stick with Adblock Plus there too.

I have been thinking about using the hosts file again, but I figure that on this rig I have a really good firewall and mixed with the adblocker I think that it's pretty good. Maybe I'll try it on my test rig and if I don't see any performance difference I might set it up again and make myself a script to cron.

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Old 02-15-2018, 02:40 PM   #244
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About 2 weeks ago I used Alien Bob's PaleMoon 27.7.1 source build package and built it with 14.2 MultiLib default GCC. I also installed the oxygen-gtk alternative Bob/Eric provides because I use KDE as default WM/DE and prefer Oxygen parts. PaleMoon launched all but instantaneously ... impressive! However it crashed almost instantaneously on YouTube videos, too. After reading through this thread I felt uncertain about the oxygen-gtk install so I checked.

Now I would like to know an equivalent alternative but I just LOVE KDE v3x KPackage as a one-stop shop for managing packages. You may recall it was built to handle pkgtool work, but I doubt it since nobody else I know used or uses it. I provide the older support libraries and binaries in /opt/kde3/ and what I like most is that the UI is divided into two vertical strips, left side for package names and right side has 2 tabs one for package info and the other, my favorite, lists all of the locations and file names for that specific package.

What I discovered was that I'd made a stupid mistake. I assumed installing Bob's oxygen-gtk would uninstall the original but there in plain text I could instantly see not only that it didn't but that each referenced the same locations and file names. So I clicked on the original package name and hit the KPackage Uninstall button and VOILA! PaleMoon ROCKS! I am extremely pleased as it runs noticeably faster even than the vastly improved post Quantum/v57 Firefox as well as uses some older addons/extensions that I like such as Lazarus and a few others.

I have used Firefox since before it was Firefox and my biggest complaint other than recent pre v57 resource management/use is that of the default disabling of ALSA. Yes, I know ESR still supports ALSA and that v57+ can be recompiled with "--enable-alsa --disable-pulseaudio" but ESR is not as good in too many other ways compared to v57 or PaleMoon, v57 is a huge PITA !! to compile successfully, and PaleMoon is easy to compile and runs great.

I will be running both for a time to see if PaleMoon competes with post v57 Firefox in all or even most things but as of today I am very hopeful that it can and will. Maybe once Mozilla/Firefox completes their move to rust compiling may become reasonable and I will go back but for now I am excited about post v27.7.1 PaleMoon from source.

Thanks to all involved.

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Old 02-15-2018, 02:57 PM   #245
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I will be running both for a time to see if PaleMoon competes with post v57 Firefox in all or even most things but as of today I am very hopeful that it can and will. Maybe once Mozilla/Firefox completes their move to rust compiling may become reasonable and I will go back but for now I am excited about post v27.7.1 PaleMoon from source.

Thanks to all involved.
Actually the Pale Moon team is working on a Firefox 55 based browser now called Basilisk. It is still beta, and I think that they are considering re-basing on a newer version, but I'm not sure about that.

Homepage: http://www.basilisk-browser.org/
SlackBuild: https://slackbuilds.org/repository/1...work/basilisk/

The SlackBuild is only a repackage script, but I read somewhere that someone is working on a compile from source SlackBuild too.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 03:20 PM   #246
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The SlackBuild is only a repackage script, but I read somewhere that someone is working on a compile from source SlackBuild too.
Huh?
from Alien Bob's Slackbuild.org

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This SlackBuild may conflict with a SlackBuild known, here at SBo, as
"palemoon"; which repackages binaries offically (sic) released by the Pale Moon
devs. This SlackBuild attempts to, compile, build, and package, Pale Moon,
Slackware style, in a manner that conforms to official Pale Moon Linux
releases; while, at the same time, providing useful and easy ways to deviate
if desired
Both seem to be available, the binary one as "palemoon" and source as "PaleMoon", no? I built PaleMoon from source as i described on 14.2 MultiLib. I haven't tried it yet on my other 32bit version of 14.2 but I will this week.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 03:51 PM   #247
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I think Skaendo was talking about Basilisk, not Pale Moon...
 
Old 02-15-2018, 04:03 PM   #248
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Skaendo --

What is HOSTS ?

Do you mean to 'manually add localhost entries for nasty sites to /etc/hosts' or is there a PlugIn -or- AddOn for PaleMoon called HOSTS ?

Thanks !

-- kjh
I've been successfully using this,

http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/

for several years. Once or twice a month I'll save the latest file, edit it, and install it.
If it interferes with a site you like, find the site name in the file and
put a # in front of that line.
There is a major TV network that use to let people stream their broadcast shows as soon as each finished its initial airing. Using the hosts file from above I was able to stream the shows without the commercials.
Unfortunately, that network now requires people to sign up at their site to stream their shows. It was a good thing while it lasted.

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Old 02-15-2018, 04:11 PM   #249
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I think Skaendo was talking about Basilisk, not Pale Moon...
Well..... enorbet is correct.
SlackBuilds.org shows two entries for Pale Moon.

http://www.slackbuilds.org/result/?s...e+moon&sv=14.2

One is a build and the other is a "repackaging," IIRC.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 06:21 PM   #250
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Well..... enorbet is correct.
SlackBuilds.org shows two entries for Pale Moon.

http://www.slackbuilds.org/result/?s...e+moon&sv=14.2

One is a build and the other is a "repackaging," IIRC.
That was not the point, and additionally the statement "from Alien Bob's Slackbuild.org" does not make sense since neither of the two submissions on SBo are mine.
My own source build for Pale Moon is here.
 
Old 02-15-2018, 06:49 PM   #251
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That was not the point, and additionally the statement "from Alien Bob's Slackbuild.org" does not make sense since neither of the two submissions on SBo are mine.
My own source build for Pale Moon is here.
Which is the one I use and never had a problem with it. Thanks.

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Old 02-15-2018, 09:19 PM   #252
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I've been successfully using this,

http://someonewhocares.org/hosts/
That's a pretty short hosts file. 13,603 lines including comments, compared to 730,950 lines from hpHosts. I wonder what number of cross-blocked sites is on both.

On top of that, I wonder how many of those are blocked via my firewall. I have 78,249 IP's blocked via my firewall.

It's amazing that there is any Internet left with that many blocked IPs/addresses.
 
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Old 02-16-2018, 12:41 AM   #253
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Thx Alien Bob for the right interpretation. I see now. My apologies Skaendo. I guess I got hung up on my reaction to PaleMoon doing v55 Firefox which was a serious hog. Quantum, later v57, was a welcome change. I'm glad PaleMoon has offered a useful alternative at the very least for basic browsing and I salute the more logical approach to ALSA.

I'm more interested in an alternative and current way to see what KPackage shows me. I know /var/log/packages displays all installed packages but I have yet to see a way to see all of the individual files and locations each package is responsible for, especially easily toggled for comparison, except via KPackage, but maybe that's for another time, another thread.
 
Old 02-16-2018, 01:06 AM   #254
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my reaction to PaleMoon doing v55 Firefox which was a serious hog.
I haven't noticed Basilisk being a hog. I haven't watched what kind of resources it is using, but as far as performance it is comparable if not faster, starting up and running, than Pale Moon. It is definitely 100x faster than Firefox starting up for me.

I haven't used Firefox for a few years now, and it looks like I might never have to again.
 
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That's a pretty short hosts file. 13,603 lines including comments, compared to 730,950 lines from hpHosts. I wonder what number of cross-blocked sites is on both.

On top of that, I wonder how many of those are blocked via my firewall. I have 78,249 IP's blocked via my firewall.

It's amazing that there is any Internet left with that many blocked IPs/addresses.
Whoa!!! 730,950 lines in a hosts file. Amazing!! That sure puts things into perspective!
I'm guessing the "little" one I've been using just hits the well known troublemakers.
 
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