HandHolding Distros dedicated to convenience make you weak. Its like having a butler to dress you. Sooner or later you can't even tie your own shoes.

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But if the only choice is between Windows and Slackware, most people are going to choose Windows! People need distros like Ubuntu and Mint to learn Linux from.

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Even with the choice between the entire, overwhelming world of Linux distros and Windows, it's still 2% and 98%...

The reason is of course obvious when reading the [Solved]-threads here on LQ. The mysterious hoops to go through to solve must scare all but the hard-core "I *will* run Linux"-fans!


I would probably still be a Windows user, if Microsoft hadn't insisted on ads, stupid menus and taking over as my pc's sys-admin... In other words, left because of the license conditions.

Once I found "The Slackware Philosophy", the choice was obvious. It's the only sane distro...

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I run mostly Slackware units. I do run one Windows 11 laptop for Disney Plus and proprietary games.
Early on I saw the financial incentive to migrate away from Windows; the cost of a Windows license and proprietary software is prohibitive. I love the security, stability, and freedom of Slackware. I really appreciate the fact that I can deploy as many Slackware units as needed without a financial hit(I do donate to Slackware).

Hi,

Today I started having issues with mozilla-firefox-108.0.1-x86_64-1ro.tgz the issue was whenever I opened a new tab for a site the browser would not load completely. It was sporadic display of the web site content. I reverted to mozilla-firefox-108.0-x86_64-1ro.tgz. I no longer experience the problem. For some reason this occurred about a week after upgrade to new release.

Just curious if anyone else experiences the same issue with web site content display issues.

I really did not want to delve into this problem as I have a lot things going at this time. Hopefully Mozilla will have a new release soon that works.

Same behavior with safe-mode ( help / troubleshot mode / restart / open) ?

Hi,

Yes it was tried but I really feel it could be a release issue. I might try a new download later today to see if it is a package download issue. I know the package is checked but anything can happen.

Thanks!

Hi,
I just downloaded another copy of the current Firefox. I upgradepkg and so far no issues like I experienced earlier. I will keep everyone aware of any other issues. I think it was a file integrity issue.

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FWIW I have no issues with Firefox whatsoever.

Might be loosely related to the fact that I stopped using it over a year ago?


Just my (adjusted for inflation) 2c

Everyone's system is different. Ever since Ruarí Ødegaard posted his Firefox Upgrade script here at LQ, I've been using it to upgrade the latest versions of FF on my Slackware 14.2 installation. I've never had a single issue with Firefox during that time. Lucky me, huh?

I understand Ruari also has a nice script to upgrade to the latest/greatest Thunderbird, but I like my ol' TB, so I haven't tried that one yet.

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By the way...

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE! And THANK YOU, once again Jeremy for LQ.org!

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Hi,


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Thanks @onebuck, but the real reason I haven't upgraded T-bird is because I have a very customized T-bird and some of what I've seen in the newer interface changes, I don't really like. Also, many of my extensions that I use for T-bird will crash on me. My current version is working fine. I'll consider upgrading sometime in the future, I s'pose. Hell, I haven't even updated to Slackware 15 because I don't like the changes that were made to the newest Xfce.

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Regarding Windows vs. Linux ease of use. Windows is not "easier" and has lots of issues posted and discussed on a number of forums and Microsoft own help forum. There is an entire cottage and IT service industry for the installation, upgrade, and repair of Windows. What is now easier, is that Windows comes pre-installed on a new PC/laptop with PC manufacturer provided drvers. If your typical end user had to ACTUALLY install a retail copy of Windows, track down various motherboard, NIC, audio, GPU etc driver updates, they would run to Linux, and, yes, even Slackware.

Perhaps, some of us have forgotten the absolute Hell Windows installation and configuration was, and still is, as well as the still horrible state of the default MS provided drivers, if you are lucky enough to have any provided.

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Ah, yes, Windows "ease of use".

A joke I heard from a colleague back when Windows NT was the new kid on the block:
Reinstalling. Troubleshooting. Impossibility of finding documentation that explained what it was doing (which was wrong, whatever it was).

I remember the early days of the "Windows Troubleshooter". After may screens of "no, I already tried that", I always seemed to end up at the last screen: "You have encountered a problem that the Windows Troubleshooter cannot help you with". I realized it was misnamed. It was not the "Windows Troubleshooter", it was the "User Troubleshooter". It assumed Windows was working fine, and the problem was that the user needed to be told the right way to do something. That was not the case: I was searching for help to deal with a situation where Windows was not working the way it was supposed to. The "Windows Troubleshooter" was useless to me.

Fortunately, I had already learned about how to dual boot into Slackware...

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I think the last two posts (with which I mostly agree btw) really belong in the "shiny things are fun" thread and not here. But to add my , most of the things in Windows that Linux users detest are due to the fact that it was designed for making money and not to be a really good OS. Bill Gates' stated ambition was to see a computer on every desk and Windows running on all of them. That meant that Windows had to be novice-friendly rather than user-friendly because novices were the users who counted. They were the active growing frontier. People who had never used a computer before had to be able to sit in front of a Windows screen and see at once how to run programs and find files.

And because they would be given no opportunity to learn how the system actually worked (that was a commercial secret), they would always be novices. So there was no point in providing good diagnostic and repair tools that an expert could profit from. Windows is designed to be reinstalled, not fixed, when it goes wrong.

We may not like that philosophy but it certainly made Gates a lot of money!

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