I've worked with and for Canadians for over 15 years in high tech. My statement was not made lightly.

You may want to double check your source on that. ADHD and autism are two different psychological disorders. ADHD is not a type of autism (although, they can share similar symptoms).

I never said your opinion wasn't meaningful, however, many of your posts are not. I'll be the first to admit that you've done some great work with incorporating PAM into Slackware, and I think it's awesome you're willing to share your work with the community. Those posts are always good to read and I learn some great stuff. I have no need for PAM, but if I did, your project would provide a great start. However, your great posts are countered with ludicrous statements like:

Don't get me wrong, you've provided some great stuff to the Slackware community, but your signal to noise ratio leaves something to be desired...

So, you have two strong arguments, first I am not American and second I am Canadian.

Tu fais pitié, Richard.

funny to see that after so many threads and pages people still did not get it, but of course, if you turn of brain and see ir from an religious perspective

systemd is the consequenze of PAM :doh:

the next FUD spreading person with to less clue what (s)he is talking about.

let me explain one more time
we boot the system already.
but we have no central authentication that needs PAM and that is standard these days, so on Slackware you have a lack on functionality without PAM.

I really wonder why those people that never accounted that lack of functionality do not just stop showing their lack of understanding, all threads would be much shorter,
From time to time someone would say 'ops I miss this now, what a pity that we dont have it, I wish it would be different' and we would be done.
But as soon as someone says so, our self declared knights and defenders of the whatever come and float the forum and threads with FUD, nonsenses and prove over and over that they do not even know what functionality is missing but that this does not matter for having an opinion, preferably a strong one.

In real this is a damage for Slackware, people have left and leave the distro because they need the functionality. None (exept there is always one fanatic) would leave because of adding this functionality.
At the end Slackware has less users and less donations, well done ...

No offense, but I have no need for trash in my flat, regardless of whether or not the majority thinks it's treasure.
You're not asking the building owner to include it in your own flat, you're trying to change the building policy to force it into everyone's flat.
For this reason alone, I've no sympathy for you, and assume you're just here to undermine the stability of the system for your own benefit.

of course you do not have need for this functionality in your hobby home environment
stability expert alarm

thanks for your outing as home hobby expert and the confirmation of what I have been written.

I don't know how you tie in my comment to my country and religion. Never mind, I would be someone like you if I try to answer to such silly comment.

How did you get such a foolish conclusion? I didn't say systemd is the consequence of PAM as Snappy isn't the consequence systemd. There are plenty distros with PAM which don't use systemd. I talked about moaning babies who always want new things without thinking about side effects.

That's true. I never accounted any problem regarding lake of PAM and I never accounted any problem due to PA as I don't use Current. Tanks to Slackware developers and all these experienced slackers, I know where I can ask for help.

Sorry to rest of you for prolonging this thread

Are you sure? However, if I were PV I refused donations from sadomasochistic people.

As LDAP has overtaken NIS, this has become an issue within corporate environments. The debate is about whether Slackware also needs to be a player in this arena when other distributions already can be used to meet the need, whether the additional requirements from the corporate arena (documentation, support, updates, release cycles) would be too burdensome. You perceive this lack of functionality as damaging to Slackware. I happily survive in my corporate environment without it.
As ivandl did, and made it happen, in this thread. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ing-4175517619
And it can also be seen in that thread that vbatts and rworkman have also looked at PAM.
Also looking at the quoted thread, you can see that from when the thread started and continuing for six months, there was nothing at all like you describe, but rather the reverse. The turning point in that thread was initiated by the OP. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post5351791

travis82, I did not mention you country in anyway, and religion is menat in the context of technical believes, as presentet in this thread. but feel free to run your own interpretation of what I have written, even if it has nothing to to with the reality.
it just shows me that you only want to present your point of view as reaction on keywords instate of getting the content and respect what people actually have been written.

So by ir you mean it not iran, by to to you mean to do and by instate you mean instead. Sorry man, you must use my signature as well.

yes, to the first, ir should have been 'it', so I targeted the t but hit the r next to it, also a clear yes to the second, got the wrong word bad, my :(

I can agree on this, and I would, but, don't excuse for your english as non native speaker, I think there are even threads about that somewhere here (not in the Slackware section)
I will possible work on an appropriate alternative, good idea thanks for the input.

Can someone declare this thread 'solved'

considering this thread was started as trolling for personal gain i conclude it will not be marked as [Solved] until Pat adds PAM to Slackware
(so not this year, at least)

Seems like some people here don't understand the concept of "regression" as it applies to software development.

From a brief search, it appears that bluetooth support was added in Slackware 12.0 - i.e. 9 years ago. As such, bluetooth support is a de facto part of the Slackware specifications. If that support becomes broken, then software engineering principles would generally dictate that the developers identify and pursue a solution.

I have my own reasons for wanting PAM on my system, but to date I have not encountered any capability that one would deem part of the Slackware specification that is broken without it. If there has been anything, it's been fixed through some other means (i.e. the patches previously mentioned). If that changes, I imagine the dev team would add PAM to fix the regression.

There's no inconsistency here as far as I can tell.

Dave

ask pam in music, pampam pampam pampaaaaammmm................. ;)

juste joke ;)