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Old 09-22-2018, 07:31 PM   #1
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So, no more working Skype for Slackware 15? The older versions crash because the new GLIBC, the newer ones needs systemd-logind


Like the title says.

And I for one, I consider this being a terrible huge issue, because the Skype is the software which I use to communicate with my family, with my friends, and with my colleagues at work.

Everyone uses Skype, so I should, if I want to communicate with them.

Oh, and that ELOGIND does not compile in Slackware-current in any version released. Apparently the Slackware is so long way away of Gentoo, that's not worth considering that ELOGIND.

I am very disappointed.

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Old 09-22-2018, 07:53 PM   #2
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Patience young padawan, now is not the time to panic.
 
Old 09-22-2018, 09:22 PM   #3
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Everyone uses Skype, so I should, if I want to communicate with them.
I guess you could try Google Hangouts or WhatsApp for your phone. People use Skype a lot?
 
Old 09-22-2018, 09:49 PM   #4
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People use Skype a lot?
I use it rarely, but, yes, scads of persons use it frequently. Some podcasters of multi-person Linux podcasts that I have heard have used it to record their podcasts when the participants are located in different locations.
 
Old 09-22-2018, 09:51 PM   #5
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I guess you could try Google Hangouts or WhatsApp for your phone. People use Skype a lot?
All the people I know personally in The Real Life (TM) and I need to communicate with them, uses Skype. From family, to job. Everyone.

Then I should use it myself, unless Google Hangouts or WhatsApp can call a Skype ID.

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Old 09-22-2018, 09:55 PM   #6
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All the people I know personally in The Real Life (TM) and I need to communicate with them, uses Skype. From family, to job. Everyone.
I understand. I hope that there is a Slackware solution soon for you.
 
Old 09-22-2018, 09:57 PM   #7
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I use it rarely, but, yes, scads of persons use it frequently.
Same. I haven't used it in years. Interesting.
 
Old 09-22-2018, 09:58 PM   #8
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Couldn't you run it in a VM on that other OS?
 
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Old 09-22-2018, 10:07 PM   #9
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Darth, try proposing your family/friends/colleagues to "evolve" and use Signal instead.
https://signal.org/blog/standalone-signal-desktop/
https://slackbuilds.org/repository/1...ignal-desktop/
https://www.schneier.com/blog/archiv..._senate_i.html
 
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Old 09-22-2018, 10:19 PM   #10
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I understand. I hope that there is a Slackware solution soon for you.
A Slackware solution will be to have in Slackware the software which ship systemd-logind or someone to have enough time in his hands to adapt elogind to Slackware and convince it to not step over the ConsoleKit shoes. Or even better, to patch half of OS to use elogind istead of ConsoleKit or systemd.

You believe that that will happens? Myself nope.

And no, a virtual machine is not a solution, unless I will use it on the computers where I work alone with them. For the ones used by family will be a no way to go.

Guess what? My Lady and my kids have only a basic knowledge about how to use a computer. Probably a VM will be overkill for them.

Finally, I do not think I will convince someone to switch to another software, because they use Skype to communicate with their relatives and friends themselves.

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Old 09-22-2018, 10:21 PM   #11
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for your family not you of course...
https://www.youtube.com/results?sear...use+virtualbox
 
Old 09-22-2018, 10:31 PM   #12
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Am using Skype as we speak. NOTHING exists that offers all the same features in any operating system and nobody I know cares to try anything else anyway. Believe me I have tried. Besides, I am odd man out with Linux as every other friend or family member I have is firmly entrenched with a Windows OS
 
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Old 09-22-2018, 10:44 PM   #13
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https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ng-4175638207/ Were any of these solutions of help?
 
Old 09-22-2018, 10:46 PM   #14
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A Slackware solution will be to have in Slackware the software which ship systemd-logind or someone to have enough time in his hands to adapt elogind to Slackware and convince it to not step over the ConsoleKit shoes.
There's a stand alone elogind at https://github.com/elogind/elogind from which it was easy to build an installable Slackware package. I'm reluctant to actually install it in a real system and haven't had time yet to try it in a VM - but anyone could do that. Convincing it not to step on ConsoliKit's shoes is the part that would need some work.

chris

EDIT: Although compiling elogind is easy on 14.2, I just noticed the thread starter mentioned -current (where I find it's definitely not easy).

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Old 09-22-2018, 11:50 PM   #15
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. . . try proposing your family/friends/colleagues to "evolve" and use Signal instead.
I don't want to seem rude, but, I must say, spoken like someone who has limited contacts with run-of-the-mill typical Windows and Mac users. They are not going to leave what they are used to--especially not Mac users trapped in the walled orchard.

Face it, we persons here at LQ are geeks who love taking computers and operating systems apart and putting them back together.

We are not typical.

I'll use my girl friend for an example. She is a sane and savvy Windows user. She doesn't have problems with viruses and Trojans because she doesn't visit dodgy websites, she runs an AV and a firewall, and she delights in identifying and deleting spammy emails; she has antennae that quiver at the sight of a phish. But after almost a decade, I haven't been able to convert her to Linux because she needs her MSOffice because it's what she knows.
 
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