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dugan 12-03-2018 07:19 PM

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post4660942

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glorsplitz 12-03-2018 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ChuangTzu (Post 5932961)
Stable, consistent, boring, gets the job done

+1 this

enorbet 12-04-2018 01:28 AM

Hazel, I have a suggestion that may help you, and I hope, considerably. Most distros are distributed with some sort of Live setup but also most of them are very barebones, just basically a pale cover for a GUI installer. Slack Live, OTOH, is a rather Full System and is a great way to get a feel for how much culture shock you may or may not be in for. The images are easy to install on Optical or Thumbdrives and require not one single permanent change. Highly recommended.

You can find a selection of images sporting different Desktops, including Plasma but versions with Mate or Xfce are also here ====>>>

http://bear.alienbase.nl/mirrors/slackware-live/1.3.0/

hazel 12-04-2018 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dugan (Post 5932973)

Hmm! I'm not sure I want to associate myself with a load of 2nd amendment freaks and hillbillies. I'm eccentric but not that sort of eccentric.

hitest 12-04-2018 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by hazel (Post 5933212)
Hmm! I'm not sure I want to associate myself with a load of 2nd amendment freaks and hillbillies. I'm eccentric but not that sort of eccentric.

Alan Hicks is not a freak or a hillbilly. Hes a Slackware contributor who wrote the Slackbook.

enorbet 12-04-2018 12:12 PM

Hazel I do hope you noted Dugan's winky. On the linked page he also mentions Eric S. Raymond to whom ALL Linux is indebted. Despite his being a bona fide FREAK! he at least did have a few moments of clarity when he wrote The Cathedral and The Bazaar. If you've ever watched the film Revolution OS you get a glimpse of how eccentric many of the first creators and proponents for Linux were but then again I suppose there are some people in the world who will never visit the amazing Sistine Chapel simply because it was created by "some all-fired flaming faggot! whom God has surely condemned to eternal screaming in the hubs of Hell" ;)

Hopefully for a good chuckle check out this tongue-firmly-in-cheek song regarding Hillbillies/Rednecks

--- Randy Newman - My Old Kentucky Home ---

birdboy 12-04-2018 12:16 PM

OP, take a look at Void Linux, might be exactly what you're looking for.

hazel 12-04-2018 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by birdboy (Post 5933226)
OP, take a look at Void Linux, might be exactly what you're looking for.

Mmm. Installation and configuration look very Slacky. On the other hand it's a rolling release, so probably less stable. There doesn't seem to be a USP here.

bassmadrigal 12-04-2018 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by hazel (Post 5933212)
Hmm! I'm not sure I want to associate myself with a load of 2nd amendment freaks and hillbillies. I'm eccentric but not that sort of eccentric.

Not all Slackware users fall into that category. I tended to focus more on:

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Slackware that appeals to the self-supportive, independent people of this world
This, I think, does sum up Slackware users pretty well. We don't run Slackware because it's popular. We run it because it fits our needs and we don't need validation from others for our choices.

Slackware is a great distro, but I will be the first to admit, it certainly isn't for everyone.

As for one of your sentences in your first post:

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Debian never uses one package where five will do!
If this is a big complaint, then Slackware may not be the distro for you (which is totally fine!). Pat long ago decided that he didn't want to dictate what software people use. This is why he tends to ship many different packages for the same task. For editors you have vim, emacs, nano, pico, ed, joe, kate, kwrite, and possibly more I don't remember. For WMs/DEs there's kde, xfce, fluxbox, blackbox, windowmaker, fvvm2, and twm. For video players, there's xine, mplayer, and kplayer. For browsers there's firefox, seamonkey, and konqueror with a google-chrome SlackBuild in extra/. Even with bootloaders, there's lilo, elilo, grub, and syslinux.

Slackware tends to use the (almost) everything but the kitchen sink method, which works for a lot of users because it makes it more likely that their preferred choice is going to be available. But some users are going to be unhappy because it's either too much (bloat) or not enough (my preferred whatever isn't available).

If you prefer the "one app per task" style, there is Salix (which has probably been mentioned already, but I'm too lazy to go back and look), which is based on Slackware and is binary compatible with Slackware.

dugan 12-04-2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hazel (Post 5933212)
Hmm! I'm not sure I want to associate myself with a load of 2nd amendment freaks and hillbillies. I'm eccentric but not that sort of eccentric.

How about Europeans then?

1337_powerslacker 12-04-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bassmadrigal (Post 5933232)
We don't run Slackware because it's popular. We run it because it fits our needs and we don't need validation from others for our choices.

Slackware is a great distro, but I will be the first to admit, it certainly isn't for everyone.

This sums up exactly why I use it. I have reached the point in my life where I don't give a rat's a** about who thinks what about what choices I make for myself. It really doesn't affect anyone else's life one way or another. Live and let live, I say! :D

hazel 12-04-2018 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bassmadrigal (Post 5933232)
If this is a big complaint, then Slackware may not be the distro for you (which is totally fine!). Pat long ago decided that he didn't want to dictate what software people use. This is why he tends to ship many different packages for the same task.

No, that's not what I meant. Maybe I expressed myself badly. Having a lot of alternatives is a good thing. Even Crux, which has a very limited officially supported repository, has a lot of private ones where you can get non-KISS software like gnome and KDE. What I meant about Debian (and it's a long-standing beef of mine) is the way they fragment packages. They often take out bits of upstream packages and package them separately, and I don't just mean the runtime/development library thing (which Red Hat distros do too and which does make a sort of sense). It makes for more complexity and more dependencies. Slackware seems more like LFS in this respect: a package contains what upstream says it ought to contain.

Richard Cranium 12-04-2018 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by hazel (Post 5933212)
Hmm! I'm not sure I want to associate myself with a load of 2nd amendment freaks and hillbillies. I'm eccentric but not that sort of eccentric.

Can we please keep this in the technical arena and away from the political one?

ChuangTzu 12-04-2018 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by hazel (Post 5933212)
Hmm! I'm not sure I want to associate myself with a load of 2nd amendment freaks and hillbillies. I'm eccentric but not that sort of eccentric.

Slack might not be for you after-all. Actually seems like *̶b̶u̶n̶t̶u̶̶/antiX thinking, I had high hopes for you hazel.

upnort 12-04-2018 05:07 PM

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What I meant about Debian (and it's a long-standing beef of mine) is the way they fragment packages. They often take out bits of upstream packages and package them separately, and I don't just mean the runtime/development library thing (which Red Hat distros do too and which does make a sort of sense). It makes for more complexity and more dependencies.
Those who are comfortable wearing those well-worn Slackware jeans do tend to get miffed by this difference. Myself included. :) That said, the split package design somewhat makes sense from an end-user perspective. No need to install development support when most users just use the base app and do not do development work. Pretty much a tom-ay-to and to-mah-to difference, although annoying to some of us. :)


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