yup, I was in the whole expression.

Good to know Left Face Down that you are learning outright. That's the spirit.
Did you already check out the SlackBook?

It's a fine place to start. Happy reading.

remember these quotes:
"you never learnt anything by doing it right"
and the one in my sig:
"Experience is what you get, when you were expecting something else"

Yeah, actually slackbook is what I've been reading. I'm pretty good on the basics like moving files, creating files, and all that jazz. However I did have to look up a few things like how to unzip a tar file. Eventually I'll memorize everything because there is a lot more to linux than just that, be it any distro.

Oh, raska, and let's not forget the quote: If you want to learn Linux, try Slackware if I remembered it well . Even if I didn't, under my opinion the quote I've mentioned is still valid.

* Warning, somewhat..
<Offtopic>
Left Face Down: Glad to see you can hang. This is a great book for any distro: --> http://www.chongluo.com/books/rute/
btw, have you tried alsaconf already?

raska: LOL! nice post, i hope you're on the same boat as i am and didn't vote for "el Pendeje"
</Offtopic>

I don't understand this comment.

In the 10.2 distribution there are at least two others: MC (midnight commander) and xffm as part of Xfce. Neither of these requires KDE or GNOME, they're X-apps.

And it's piece of cake to install other stuff like ROX, xfm, etc.

I'm buddy, worry no more. I freakin' hate that jerk.


I think that quote is quite questionable and to the current standards more like a myth than nothing else. But that has been argued in other threads which I don't recall right now.

YOu're right, I did forget about xffm, but midnight commander is hardly as easy to use for new people as they would want.

Not to mention we're talking about what slackware comes with by default, because believe it or not, most new users won't be able to figure out HOW to install ROX, but even worse, they won't even know THAT rox can accomplish what they need.

Hey liquidtenmilion I was researching more info on checkinstall and others too have suggested that it should not be used with Slackware for many of the same reasons you posted. So now I'm back to square one. I would really like to learn how to make packages on my own. Is there a more uptodate guide then the linuxpackages.net how to.

A more in dept how to go about the steps in creating slackware packages. Maybe some of the contribs of linuxpackages.net could share their info. It would ne nice if Pat could update his utility to make it a little more user friendly. I know I'm asking alot but asking does not hurt.

Most people make them either by hand:

Then you can simply delete the /work directory



(Some people then take it a step further and make a script out of those steps, but ultiamtely I think that is a waste of time, but that's just me.) That'll create a package for you, that, USUALLY works perfectly, but not for every package. For packages that don't take DESTDIR, you are going to have to get creative. (most do nowadays). For those packages I usually just do a "make install" and keep the source tarball for a "make uninstall" later.

gentoo is too easy to use! "the easier it is to use the less you can do." that is a quote someone once used against windoze! And I somewhat agree. Youwon't learn anything if it's too easy on you and I don't like gnome( no offense). Gnome doesn't have near the support that kde has and near the flexability. Anyway gentoo is for users who will surf the net and do normal everyday tasks. Linux users are far from the ordinary. We aren't like most windoze users who don't know what the heck they're doing and only know how to turn on the computer and check e-mail. No offense to gentoo users it just isn't what most slackers are use to. Many loyal slackers are and will stay slackers. I've tried too many types of linux that everyone says is just so great and when i get there I think whats so great about this?? Many believe the Slackware install is hard to use!! How in the world is that hard??? Because it doen't have a pretty GUI like many other OSs? I've tried gentoo, sorry didn't like it. Same with my friends. We don't like ubuntu either. maybe its just gnome?? not for me but others... maybe?