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03-03-2006, 01:36 PM
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LQ Newbie
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Greece
Posts: 9
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Slackware Software Series
Hi to all, I am new in Slackware, as I have used SuSE till now.
I read the slackbook, but I have some questions:
1)If I dont put N, will I be able to connect to the internet?Is N essential for internet connection?
I dont want a bunch of daemons I dont need, installed, for security reasons.
2)If I dont put X, will I be able to use KDE?
3)Are the BSD console games good enough to get into?
4)What exactly is AP?Is it the shell commands, like cd, ls?
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03-03-2006, 02:30 PM
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#2
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Senior Member
Registered: Apr 2002
Location: Arbovale, WV
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 1,761
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When I install Slackware, I use the expert mode. It is not complicated and lets you choose the packages you want. So if you do not want Apache, just uncheck it.
You do need X to run KDE. I forget what is in the N section, so I am not sure if you could leave that unchecked.
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03-03-2006, 02:36 PM
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Registered: Nov 2004
Location: Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: Slackware-Current / Debian
Posts: 795
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1. Not all are necessary, but I'd include at least dhcp, dhcpcd, and tcpip.
2. Nope. KDE runs on top of X.
3. If you like console games, sure.
4. AP has some necessary packages. Shell commands are part of your shell (ie, Bash, xsh, korn)
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03-03-2006, 02:48 PM
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#4
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Member
Registered: Dec 2004
Location: The Woodlands, Texas
Distribution: Slackware, Archlinux, CentOS
Posts: 196
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Messed up this post 
Last edited by Anonymo; 03-03-2006 at 03:00 PM.
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03-03-2006, 02:58 PM
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Member
Registered: Dec 2004
Location: The Woodlands, Texas
Distribution: Slackware, Archlinux, CentOS
Posts: 196
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Here are my barebasics
aaa_base-10.1.0-noarch-2
aaa_elflibs-10.1.0-i486-1
bash-3.0-i486-2
bc-1.06-i386-2
bin-9.2.0-i486-2
binutils-2.15.92.0.2-i486-2
bzip2-1.0.2-i486-5
coreutils-5.2.1-i486-1
cxxlibs-5.0.6-i486-1
devs-2.3.1-noarch-21
dhcpcd-1.3.22pl4-i386-1
diffutils-2.8.1-i386-1
e2fsprogs-1.35-i486-1
etc-5.1-noarch-9
findutils-4.1.7-i386-1
gawk-3.1.4-i486-1
gcc-3.3.4-i486-1
gcc-g++-3.3.4-i486-1
gettext-0.14.1-i486-1
glibc-2.3.4-i486-1
glibc-solibs-2.3.4-i486-1
glibc-zoneinfo-2.3.4-noarch-1
grep-2.5-i386-2
groff-1.17.2-i386-3
gzip-1.3.3-i386-2
kbd-1.12-i486-2
lilo-22.5.9-i486-2
logrotate-3.6.8-i486-1
make-3.80-i386-1
man-1.5m2-i486-1
man-pages-1.64-noarch-1
module-init-tools-3.1-i486-1
ncurses-5.4-i486-2
pkgtools-10.1.0-i486-4
procps-3.2.3-i486-1
sed-4.0.9-i486-2
shadow-4.0.3-i486-11
slocate-2.7-i486-3
sysklogd-1.4.1-i486-9
sysvinit-2.84-i486-51
tar-1.15.1-i486-1
tcpip-0.17-i486-31
util-linux-2.12p-i486-1
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03-03-2006, 03:02 PM
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#6
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Senior Member
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Lower Rhine region, Germany
Distribution: Slackware64 current
Posts: 1,649
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The installation process includes a dialog where you can choose which daemons you want to be automatically run. I struggled with expert modus because I chose not to install some packages and afterwards was not able to compile applications from source because some libs were missing.
I would go for the "full install" option and deselect the daemons I don't need later during installation.
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03-03-2006, 04:34 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2004
Location: In my house.
Distribution: Ubuntu 10.10 64bit, Slackware 13.1 64-bit
Posts: 2,649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by titopoquito
The installation process includes a dialog where you can choose which daemons you want to be automatically run. I struggled with expert modus because I chose not to install some packages and afterwards was not able to compile applications from source because some libs were missing.
I would go for the "full install" option and deselect the daemons I don't need later during installation.
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VERY good advice.
The major advantadge to this is you can run 'pkgtool' later and uninstall things you never use. Best to do a full install for your first shot (If you have the HDD space, about three gigs), it will help you compile/run alot more programs.
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03-03-2006, 04:41 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,272
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The other advantage to the full install is that you can uninstall only a few packages at a time that you think you don't need and see if that breaks your system over the next few days.
Then, when your computer breaks upon boot you have only 3 or so packages to reinstall, and not have to sift through a list of 50 packages to find the one you shouldn't have uninstalled.
Hope that makes sense!
PS, because I'm awkward, lazy, impatient, etc I do the expert install and deslecting stuff I don't need, rather than wait for 3 gigs of software to install, then wait for all the packages I don't want to uninstall
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03-03-2006, 04:51 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Dec 2004
Location: In my house.
Distribution: Ubuntu 10.10 64bit, Slackware 13.1 64-bit
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I can see that,(And do that myself), but being new to Slackware, it maybe better to install everything.
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03-03-2006, 08:47 PM
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Senior Member
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Jogja, Indonesia
Distribution: Slackware-Current
Posts: 4,878
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if you are familiar with other distro, perhaps you can use the expert mode, and choose which packages should be installed in your system. It will consume more time at selecting the packages, but at install time, it will take less time, plus you won't have to wait to long for the system to boot (especially when you install all the daemon services)
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03-04-2006, 06:05 PM
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Member
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
Distribution: Slackware 14.2, current
Posts: 416
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Quote:
Originally Posted by titopoquito
The installation process includes a dialog where you can choose which daemons you want to be automatically run. I struggled with expert modus because I chose not to install some packages and afterwards was not able to compile applications from source because some libs were missing.
I would go for the "full install" option and deselect the daemons I don't need later during installation.
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One thing I got caught by on my first install, which was a full install was printing. I wanted to use CUPS and it was installed, but so was LPRNG. Since it was installed after CUPS, the version of lp was not the cups version. I had to remove both and re-install CUPS. I don't know if there are other packages like that (I have not encountered anything "broken" in a similar way).
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03-05-2006, 05:06 AM
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Senior Member
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Lower Rhine region, Germany
Distribution: Slackware64 current
Posts: 1,649
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Quote:
Originally Posted by statguy
One thing I got caught by on my first install, which was a full install was printing. I wanted to use CUPS and it was installed, but so was LPRNG..
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You won't have to take care about this any longer, since LPRNG is in /pasture now since Slackware 10.1. A full install won't break CUPS.
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03-05-2006, 08:26 AM
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Member
Registered: Sep 2004
Location: Ontario, Canada
Distribution: Slackware 14.2, current
Posts: 416
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Quote:
Originally Posted by titopoquito
You won't have to take care about this any longer, since LPRNG is in /pasture now since Slackware 10.1. A full install won't break CUPS.
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That's good to know. My last full install was 10.0.
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03-07-2006, 12:39 PM
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Member
Registered: Mar 2006
Distribution: Slackware64 -current
Posts: 268
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The problem with "expert" mode is that it won't force you to install required packages. Why not use the "newbie" install? That will install the required packages from every Package Series that you select. (I would be careful about omitting any of the Package Series, although I guess you could do without E,F and Y if you don't want them.)
Also, you could browse thru the tagfiles on the install CD first, and look at the "packages.txt" file. That way you'll know what you want to do before you start the installation.
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