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Old 01-20-2014, 02:14 PM   #16
Cristiano Urban
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Bad news...

Now the problem is manifested also with Fedora. Currently I've a list of three kernels to use: 3.12.6-300.fc20.x86_64, 3.12.7-300.fc20.x86_64 and 3.12.8-300.fc20.x86_64, but only the first one seems to work fine. With the others the pc restarts instead of shutting down. I've blacklisted the nouveau driver, but the problem persists. It's very strange, also because Slackware and Fedora have different system management daemons. And especially because only the 3.12.6 kernel works (on Fedora)...

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Thank you for reporting. When I've five minutes I'll try to start Ubuntu from the usb port located on the left side, nearby the power connector.
I don't know what's the behaviour of Windows 8 because I've deleted it the second time I've turned on the pc

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Old 01-20-2014, 05:42 PM   #17
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@Cristiano Urban

After reading your post yesterday I downloaded the live version of Fedora 20 to a USB drive and found that the laptop now restarts every single time, whether AC powered or battery, no matter which USB port.
Ubuntu seemed to work better for me.

While I think about it, are you using UEFI boot or legacy BIOS?
I have left UEFI for the Windows 8 dual boot.

I still have the laptop at the moment but am just waiting on a call from Dell to collect it, which should be today or tomorrow. I really would like to keep it but not if this kind of thing happens. I thought I had the problem solved but now not so sure.

On another thread that I found (different laptop but similar problem), the user had found that keeping a USB device connected as it was shut down prevented a restart. Which all seems to boil down to some issue with the USB again. I have just started trying this and it will report back if it has merit.
Found the link:
http://www.pbehnke.com/main/node/11

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Old 01-21-2014, 02:25 AM   #18
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I have this problem as well. Every now and then my ThinkPad S430 reboots in stead of shutting down
 
Old 01-21-2014, 03:22 AM   #19
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I have this problem as well. Every now and then my ThinkPad S430 reboots in stead of shutting down
From what I have read, the reasons for this can be varied and it doesn't seem to be limited to any particular brand or hardware.
Or even Linux distro, as it turns out.
Even Windows 8 did it, but very infrequently.
Still shouldn't happen though.

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Old 01-21-2014, 01:50 PM   #20
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Originally Posted by OlderNWiser
While I think about it, are you using UEFI boot or legacy BIOS?
I have left UEFI for the Windows 8 dual boot.
I use legacy BIOS since the first time I've installed Slackware.
 
Old 01-21-2014, 05:12 PM   #21
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Originally Posted by ppr:kut View Post
Sounds a bit like this bug: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=44261

Try reverting the commit mentioned there, rebuild the kernel and try it. Chances are it will work afterwards.
As ppr:kut has kindly pointed out earlier, it does sound suspiciously like this bug.
I can't try what he suggests as I am only running off a live USB for the moment.
I don't have any problem on battery either (see the link), only on AC.

I did try connecting a USB device as I mentioned earlier (mouse).
While it seemed to work at first it eventually got back to restarting, so I am no wiser.

I thought at first this was a problem with the USB ports on my laptop but if others are reporting the same problem from installed distros then it can't be.

So, is there a concensus that this is a software bug of some kind that will eventually get fixed? (Seeing as the kernel bug mentioned has been around for over 12 months now.)

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Old 01-21-2014, 05:23 PM   #22
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I use legacy BIOS since the first time I've installed Slackware.
I guess I was just clutching at straws for something common.
 
Old 03-09-2014, 01:05 PM   #23
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Hello, I have same problem with a Dell Inspiron 15 7000 series.
With Win8.1 it resets when I try to shutdown. Not erverytime. Maybe 1/10 of tries.
Then I decide remove win8.1 and install Ubuntu.
After installation it didn't reset, but agter full online updates, then, it resets every time I shutdown.
I have tried whit a lot of distributions. Ubuntu, Fedora, Opensuse, Mint, Manjaro....
With linux always happens after full updates. With win8.1 only 1/10 of times.

Is there a solution???
 
Old 06-08-2014, 07:33 AM   #24
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It appears that the answer to this problem is to update to the latest BIOS, ver. A09, released just 2 or 3 days ago.
Be warned though that it may render your Linux partition unuseable, as reported by people in this Dell forum thread (page 3).
Best to read that first:
http://en.community.dell.com/support...352=3#20642709
 
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Old 06-08-2014, 08:08 AM   #25
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i have the same issue, and found these links:

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=133108
http://askubuntu.com/questions/13214.../135568#135568
http://askubuntu.com/questions/13288...-of-a-shutdown

I have not had time to test yet
 
Old 06-10-2014, 01:05 AM   #26
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Seems I found the solution for my particular case. One of the suggestions above worked, so I put an explanation here if anyone is interested.
 
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Old 06-10-2014, 09:13 AM   #27
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Seems I found the solution for my particular case. One of the suggestions above worked, so I put an explanation here if anyone is interested.
Thanks for sharing your solution, Petar. Oh, and I like your blog's theme
 
Old 07-21-2014, 02:11 PM   #28
Cristiano Urban
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Hi,
after a lot of time I've had the possibility to do some experiments.
Thanks to all for posting your suggestions and solutions. At the end it seems I've solved updating the BIOS to the A09 version (found here). To do this I've had to resize the disk to give space to Windows, in order to execute the BIOS update.
Now I've a dual boot with Fedora 20 with kernel 3.15.4-200.fc20.x86_64 and a fresh installation of Ubuntu 14.04. Both seem to shut down properly for now. The only thing that remains to be done is to try Slackware ;-).

Regarding the proposed solutions: the procedure explained here didn't work for me (on Fedora) and I don't know why. Instead, on Ubuntu, the solution proposed here by the user Inspired, seemed to work fine.
 
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