Slackware officially adds KDE 3.5.10 to version 13?
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I've just been reading the latest Distro Watch Weekly and came across this: Quote:
What's the story? Regards, |
Packages are located on mirrors in unsupported directory.
http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/linux/slackw...for-slack13.0/ More about topic in README file. |
Ah ha!
Thanks Kukibl. I was looking for it under the /slackware64-13.0/extra/ directory of my favorite mirror. I didn't think to look under /unsupported. The fact that it's unsupported would also explain why there's no announcement on the the slackware.com website. Still, an announcement of some sort would have been helpful. Possibly in the changelog? Thanks again, |
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I've got two computers I need to update to Slackware 13 -- an older Pentium III laptop and a brand new Athalon 64 desktop. I'll probably update the laptop first because I'm the only one who uses it. I'll likely keep KDE 4 on it and learn my way around. Depending on how well that works, I can upgrade the Desktop with KDE 4 or (now, thanks to Pat et. al.) downgrade it to KDE 3.5 if my wife has trouble with KDE 4.
It's nice to have the options, so we'll see how it works out. Regards, |
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This issue is not about what is "right" or "wrong," but about choice. Most end-users are not skilled or qualifed to maintain something as complicated as the KDE software code. To be abandoned is bound to motivate a wide range fo emotions. To mock the blog writer with a statement such as "waaaaaah waaaaaah waaaaaah!" is inappropriate. |
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http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...stion.-757500/ It would have saved me a lot of grief. |
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I saw this release as a gentle 'gift' to us. I have a feeling that (the not so old) 4.2.4 seems like a smart choice as there are more changes than those 10.000 improvements being made... KDE will mature and some time 4.3 will hit current. With all background indexing turned off, KDE 4.2.4 is being fast with little memory/processor consume.
XFCE was nicely packed, have a cool composite, is damn fast and resource friendly. If you like taskbar & startmenu, XFCE can be very functional and customized a lot. Go to rlworkman's repository and grab a few goodies to add new functionalities. We have kde3 compat libs and now the whole 3.5.10. Why put more pressure? Just relax and let the 'crew' have some rest. |
Only 10000 improvements? So few?? Hardly worth bothering with. :rolleyes:
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We get it, you won't touch KDE 4 with a barge pole. Just install KDE 3.5 already! |
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The author may very well have had valid arguments against KDE4. Unfortunately, he didn't bother to present any of them to his readers. "Waaaaaah Waaaaaaah" may have been a bit childish, but it captures the tone of that blogpost quite well. |
A quote frome Pat from the README in the KDE directory for these unsupported packages:
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I still use KDE4 I'll have you know. I don't mind beta software that much... |
what are you all using KDE for anyway? Bling just gets in the way. If you always have applications maximized, why do you need bling?
I think perhaps the better factor to concider is how well other applications support QT4. MythTV for example only has stable versions for QT3. If you want to install MythTV on slackware 13.0, you have to use an unstable SVN download. |
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It was BIOS, telling me that the CPU fan was not running. Makes sense, because that fan is in a box 20 feet away; I installed water cooling six years ago. So into BIOS I go, and switch off the CPU fan detector again. Anything that messes with BIOS is not for me. There were other problems, so I'll wait for Slackware 13.1 |
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I have installed the 64 bit version of Slackware 13.0 added Alien Bob's 32-bit compatibility layer and tried KDE4, XFCE4 and KDE3.5.10. These thoughts are not empirical they are only my feelings. KDE4 feels slow and as if it has some rough edges, all the bits are there they just don't fit closely. Xfce4 feels smooth and slick, yet ultimately incomplete. KDE3.5.10 feels familiar, complete and smooth.
It should be understood that the only parts of KDE3.5.10 that I have installed are kdebase and kdelibs, with the addition of kdei en_GB, k3b3 and k3b3 internationalization. In this setup it feels as fast as XFCE4 yet is more integrated. My choice is KDE 3.5.10, and XFCE4.6.1 will be a worthy successor when all the bits are ready. KDE4.2.4 needs to improve dramatically. samac |
has anyone tested/installed the 32bit version of kde 3.5.10?
the reason why I ask is that here ftp://ftp.slackware.com/pub/slackwar...packages/i486/ the kdelibs3-3.5.10-x86_64-opt2.txz seams to have the wrong ARCH |
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So there. |
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I put KDE 3.5.10 on a fresh install of Slackware 13.0 64bit,
but the kdepim3 package is missing. (I wanted akregator and kmail) Turns out, kdepim-3.5.10 won't build on 13.0, but I found a patch that seems to do the trick. Code:
--- kdepim-3.5.10/kmail/editorwatcher.cpp.old I figure this is the last time I'll see the old KDE. Can't be many people still using it, I've searched and found no mention of this missing package. EDIT: Found another problem: Automounting external drives doesn't work. I'm assuming because the dbus-qt3 package is also missing. I used the build scripts from 12.2 to build dbus-qt3-0.70. An additional configure option is needed on 13.0: --with-qt3-moc=/opt/kde3/bin/moc Automounting still wouldn't work, but a thread on the "Linux from scratch" forum pointed me towards rebuilding kdebase3. That did the trick. Everything seems to work as well as ever, so I'll try to use this version of KDE until 4.x adds a setting to disable "mouse wheel scrolls through desktops" (I absolutely must be able to turn this off). |
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Which don't work quite so well. :) Have you tried using Koffice lately in slack 13? So stable it don't need a spell checker. |
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