Slackware new logo Pool
 

Everybody has an opinion about the new logo.

But what about a simple poll to quantify it?

Don't you think a 6+ page post about the logo is enough already? How long are we going to debate something non of us can change whether we like it or not.

not debating. Debate is another thread. Just a pool here. I'd like to a general idea about what everybody said, so I could read it all and they count and see how many liked and how many disliked, but it is easier to make a poll.

Please, people, use the other post to debate it:

Slackware new logo

It is not a pool but a poll.
You swim in a pool.
To take a poll is to get the input from other people.;)

I think Ubuntu and Gentoo need a new logo.

Looks a lot like http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...o-vote-664212/

Yes, but the mods closed that one prematurely, as they probably will this one, so vote quick. Of course we all know the answer, it is either ugly or ugly would be a complement.

Please don't close this poll.

hahah.. this is soooo closed soon ;)

Best buy the shirts now before they are not sold any more an turned into a collectors item that only the geekiest of the geeks that wish they would have bought one then would buy it at auction for a bazillion slack... or something like that. I bet if you 'distressed' it (basically run it through a washer with rocks and glass) those retarded kids who think that stuff is cool wouldn't understand what the hell it is and would want to wear it simply because nobody can understand it. Then they would be like "if you can't read this, you just don't understand me. I hate you! get out of my face." they they will go cry to their therapist about how jenny screwed their boyfriend then spread rumors about them on myspace...

I'm sure I could continue all day but this is getting tiring...

New logos just show that effort was put into the product which totally contradicts the theme of slack. But OMG!!! a boot image was added to slackware!!! what's going to happen next? custom logos for the frame buffer??? custom background images??? themes!?!?!? How dare them!

WTF... I post 2 polls and both are closed... now this one stays open. This is bullshit. I want the poll to stay open but seriously that is fawked up.

The new logo is so hideous, that decorum prevents us from discussing it here!

Guess which choice I selected in your pool ;)

I'm thinking "no"

Until Pat comes to his senses on this topic!

Long live Pat and long live Slackware but...die, new logo, die!

He already has. The new logo is great!
Aww, come on man. Live a little. The new logo was long overdue.

Greatest logo ever. Only thing better are the Ubuntu release codenames.

my favorite about code names is that I can never tell what the hell the version of the OS is. I'm so glad the code names for slackware are numerical.

so good...
 

You know, this new logo-thing is SO good, that they are thinking about using it as weapon of mass destruction?

:-)

long live the king!!! long live slackware!!! long live the new logo!!! o_O

it's slackwars now!

Edit: Currently, 50.56 percent of 89 voters found the new logo to be "ugly" or consider ugly to be a "compliment" for it. :D

"But OMG!!! a boot image was added to slackware!!!"
I mentioned this heresy in the other thread, but nobody took the bait. Next we will have no /etc/inittab, autologin to runlevel 4 -no make that the 'new' GUI runlevel 5, running as default user root, with all the ports open, a GUI installer, and a Bob Dobbs avatar as a desktop assistent!

Which means that all people who didn't vote just don't care about it.

But where should Darth Dobbs stick his pipe?

Let's not get overexicted! :D

It's not a big deal. I've been working like this for a year, because running "init 4" as root each time you want to use KDE is annoying.

LOL, that would be awesome! would words of wisdom appear in pipesmoke?!


what? `startx` doesn't work with KDE when you have the proper .xinitrc file in your home directory?

I find the text console more pleasing, especially when all I'm doing for the session is compiling/installing or moving some things around. It's fun going to a coffee shop and writing script or something with just the console open and people wonder what the hell you are doing.

What's even sadder is that I use vim so much that even as I type thing I'm trying to delete lines with 'dd'.

I should browse the net at a coffee shop in just `links` that would be awsome! or watch a movie with aaxine!... honestly... why is aalib there? how offten does one need to spam an ASCII art image of bob dobs? Not to mention cacaview...

well... I was going to past an ascii image of dobbs but his face appeared melted... that and it was a bit extreem

yeah... thought I would re try that... but no... it's just wrong.

worst logo I've ever seen. it's a joke, right? please patrick revert to the original logo. :(

Wow. We are still talking about the logo? PV made his choice. I'm fine with it. This isn't an issue for me.

it's the first time i've seen it - when did it come out? but yeah, it's pretty awful imo - especially compared to the original logo which was completely classic and kick @ss. i guess that's what happens when you try to improve on perfection. :(

Agreed. The old logo is timeless, classic. I'm okay with the new logo.

I do not like the new slackware logo. It is better to let me design a slackware logo in Chinese :)

Of course startx will also work. But give me at least any good reason not to start KDE automatically. Typing startx or "init 4" every time when you log in is waste of time. Maybe it is "cool", but it is pointless. Quick modifications to inittab allows you to use 6 "normal" terminals even on runlevel 4, so starting X manually makes no sense (why should I do it myself every time, when I can make computer do it for me automatically?). What's the point in using exclusively console? I can work without X (vim, links, centericq, mc(which is my favorite tool even in X)) but is this really necessary? I think it isn't. Also there is a nice screen program which allows to keep ton of compilations/script running at same time.

This debate again, eh? The fact is, changing from runlevel 3 to runlevel 4 is exceedingly easy, so this debate should not exist. You can choose whatever you want. I personally prefer runlevel 3, even though I know how to add more console ttys to runlevel 4. Why? I don't know. I just prefer it. If there are ever any problems with X, it's easy to solve. If I ever want to check something quickly without having to load X, I can (though I realize this can be done in runlevel 4 as well if you use Ctrl+Alt+F#). I almost exclusively use X (though with a terminal emulator always open), but I still prefer runlevel 3 -- perhaps because of its simplicity.

Like runlevel 3? Great. Like runlevel 4? Change one number from 3 to 4 in /etc/inittab. Was that too much work?
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I just use a second entry in my grub menu.lst (or lilo.conf) file with 'init 4' in the options. That keeps my iniitab untouched and gives me the option at boot time of booting whichever way I want to, without having to edit or enter boot options manually.

XavierP... why didn't you close this thread? ... since you closed 2 of poll attempts. :\

I will let it go if you give me an answer... and yes I emailed him the same question. I received no response after 3 days.

Is it REALLY that important? It's a stupid topic and a stupid poll. Free speech perhaps, but it's still idiocy. It's a logo. Nothing more. It doesn't change the distro in the slightest. Don't like it? Well, since it not in the actual distro ANYWHERE, and lives solely on the web page for now, you could just ignore it. If you're really upset, you could block the image as an ad in your favourite browser. This topic (which is stupid IMO) has a VERY long thread and 3 polls (one of which is still open) devoted to it. I would be trying NOT to take credit for it, but whatever. If you insist on bothering the mods, then I would expect a short-lived account here.

I get the feeling you just want to be able to take credit for the poll. In that case I think you need to learn a few things about the world around you. Some people try and help out without demanding credit.

Well, what's wrong with a poll anyways? The other thread didn't have a poll and the one that did was closed. It'd be nice to have at least one open to see what people think of it.

Anyway, you seem a bit out of line T3. What's wrong with discussing the new logo? If Nike changed their checkmark to say, an X, you think their wouldn't be discussion about it? Seems like you're complaining about a discussion that's only natural. No one has mentioned that the logo defines the distro anyways... and just because people say they dislike it doesn't mean they're going to stop visiting the website, or use the distro.. it's simply a discussion about whether or not one likes the new design, so halt the hostility.

Peace brother.

Although I still think it's a stupid topic, I never said that this thread or the other one should be closed. I was responding to this:
which has been asked a few times. Call me crazy, but constantly bothering a mod with the same question who has better stuff to do is not a smart idea.

From the other thread:
XavierP expressed his sentiments on why the other two poll threads were closed. Someone created a new one. He probably just kept it open because you kept whining about it, and that is where the issue stands. Now everyone wins. Except you, because you want to take credit for the thread but now someone else is. Boo-hoo.

I am quite sure this post will be censored, but that's OK.

Currently about 50% think it is ugly. About 30% think it is great, and another 20% are neutral on the subject.

Personally I think it's fantastic.

Actually, I saw this poll thread in the forum and realised that there are a significant number of members who, for whatever reason, can't function without a poll. So I left it alone. There you go, again, no silent conspiracy, no anything else. For those of you who chucked your toys out of the pram when I closed the other duplicate thread (the poll didn't really make it different) here you go - go nuts, poll away.

To be honest though, this whole thing has gone from a "what do you think" type of thread, to a "we demand the clock get turned back" type of thread. That really needs to get dialled down.

The thing to remember is this: Slackware is run by one person and that person has the final say. Even with the extremely valuable contributions from Eric and Robbie (both to Slackware and to this forum), PV owns/runs/whatevers Slackware. You can run a thousand of these threads and you can blog about it all you like, but he has decided that he likes the logo and that it fits with the ethos. Unless he changes his mind, it stays.

I will note this: Slackware is extremely configurable as are all Linux distros, so if you don't like the logo in your OS, track down all the files where it resides and change it back to the old one or to one of your choosing.

Anyway, this is longer than I had intended. To those of you who demanded that a poll was your birthright, here it is. To those of you who realised that there was more value in an actual discussion of the logo rather than just ticking a radio box and also realised that the threads were not closed from spite - thank you and carry on :)

FWIW, I don't like the logo at all. However, I have lost no sleep over it as I am aware that I can remove it from any Slackware install if I need to.

A productive answer!
But I fail to find any slackware logo on my system..Is there any installed by default somewhere ? It seems that Slackware is one (if not the only one) of the Linux distributions where there is not the distribution logo on install, desktop background image, gui stuff etc

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I found 2!! :) But very tiny though
/usr/share/apps/kpackage/pics/slack.png
/usr/share/apps/knetworkconf/pixmaps/slackware.png
Both are installed by the kdeadmin package

It looks like someone spilt alphabet soup.

I also believe that the LILO boot screen has the new logo (but I may be wrong). And this goes to show, Slackware is extremely non-invasive. If there are only 2 small logos, it's probably the least branded distro out there - everything is pretty much stock/vanilla.

The most prevalent positioning for the logo is, right now, on the website. In future I would assume that it will go onto the packaging of CDs/DVDs and to the Slackbook, but unless you spend every day on the website you won't see it.

Slackware's lilo screen shows the old logo (this holds true for slackware-current as well). You may have in mind the LILO bitmap I created and which you can use instead of the default one (with the old logo): http://www.slackware.com/~alien/slacknew.bmp

Those other two tiny Slackware bitmaps mentioned here, are part of KDE (i.e. not put there by Slackware), so really the LILO bitmap is the only intentional piece of Slackware branding.

Eric

Where's the pool? You said there'd be a pool. I don't see no pool.

For the record, I'm not interested in changing PV's mind, I'm happy to accept the mod's decisions and I'm interested - but not desperate - to see the results of this poll, as were >100 users.

Andrew

So far it's still significantly weighted towards general dislike for the new logo. I'm not for changing anyone's mind either, but I think the current logo is overall detrimental to the distro. When people see that logo and can barely read it, what are they gonna say ? Oh, how cute, a logo designed for both humans and vampires, it can be read both upside-down and rightside-up, wow ! *closes Firefox tab*

Now we're stuck with an ever-so-trendy logo, how about dumping the boring release numbers? 12.1? Yaaaawn. We need something like alliterative animal appellations or Pixar produced personalities. And where (apologies to El Reg) is the Paris Hilton angle?

Personally I think it's a good thing that this disagreement over the logo exists. It says a lot for the distro that the only major sign of dissent is over the logo, not the packages, packaging, software, method of install, etc etc. Slackware must be a rock solid OS of awesomeness if we're only quibbling over the logo!

Yes, the new logo has introduced a flaw into an otherwise perfect distro. It just does not fit. It's more suited to an eye-candy oriented distro.