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Old 08-16-2004, 03:09 AM   #1
caovankhanhvn
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Slackware , how long will it last ? ? ?


I head some new that many ( maybe almost ) developer from Slackware has joined to Debian team . I'm shock because I use Slack and feel happy with it .

Can we fix that new ?
 
Old 08-16-2004, 04:42 AM   #2
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I highly doubt that Patrick is now a developer for Debian. But maybe you are right, one of the developers for Slackware has moved to Debian, can you pull a source for this? There is nothing on slackzone.org
 
Old 08-16-2004, 07:32 AM   #3
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Pat had a couple guys helping him years ago, but they are no longer helping him. But that was several years ago, not sure if that is what you are talking about or not.
 
Old 08-16-2004, 09:54 AM   #4
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Slackware is now the longest running Linux distribution. Don't get caught up
in the "chicken little" syndrome. Slackware is the epitome of a Linux distro,
and there are too many hackers using it for it to die...

One of the great things about Slackware is that there are NOT a whole bunch
of different developers. I think Pat okays everything that gets added, and
that's a good thing. Try using Debian for a while, and you'll see the confusion
that comes with many, many developers.


P.S. Can you believe "Slackware" is not in the LQ Spell Checker?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Come on, Jeremy - if you can get Windows in there, surely you can add Slackware!

Last edited by Bruce Hill; 08-16-2004 at 09:55 AM.
 
Old 08-16-2004, 10:58 AM   #5
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Quote:
Originally posted by Chinaman
P.S. Can you believe "Slackware" is not in the LQ Spell Checker?!?!?!?!?!?!?
Come on, Jeremy - if you can get Windows in there, surely you can add Slackware!
I'm certainly for adding slackware to the dictionary!

However, in my opinion, 'Windows' should be in the dictionary anyway, it could be a noun at the beginning of the sentence. However, the injustice comes when Microsoft is in the dictionary and slackware and debian etc aren't - but then mandrake is - inconsistency :)?
 
Old 08-16-2004, 12:41 PM   #6
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I think the spelling checker is fair. All "slackware", "redhat", "lindows", "microsoft" and "windoze" aren't there.

I don't think slackware will end any time soon. Slackware is a ok distro. It is not very advanced but very simple. The good point is that it wouldn't "get in the way(TM)" so you can tweak it the way you like. Slackware won't lose the position until Arch, gentoo make a few steps of improvement.
 
Old 08-16-2004, 12:42 PM   #7
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Windows is is an English word, as is mandrake (type of plant), but Slackware is not so it makes sense. On the other hand there is a reason most dictionaries let you add words. Or you could just abbreviate to Slack which is a word as well.
 
Old 08-16-2004, 12:58 PM   #8
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A curious thought. We get this question about Slackware's demise. Someone has posted a similar thread on a.o.l.s. Is this just a coincidence or is someone wanting to lower confidence in Slackware.
 
Old 08-16-2004, 01:19 PM   #9
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Originally posted by codec
I think the spelling checker is fair. All "slackware", "redhat", "lindows", "microsoft" and "windoze" aren't there.
But the spell checker gives:

microsoft --> Microsoft

and

windoze --> Windows (3rd)

slackware, redhat, lindows aren't accepted or corrected --> Slackware, Redhat, Lindows

I feel that on a linux forum popular distro names should be included - but then it probably doesn't matter - I'm going off topic :)
 
Old 08-16-2004, 01:54 PM   #10
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Originally posted by ringwraith
A curious thought. We get this question about Slackware's demise. Someone has posted a similar thread on a.o.l.s. Is this just a coincidence or is someone wanting to lower confidence in Slackware.
I suppose it is possible, but why? Slack is a niche player. one of the biggest niche players perhaps but still not the primary candidate for either Desktop or Enterprise use. The thing that gets me is the level of loyalty some have for Slack, myself included. Honestly I got tired of switching around and most other distros just don't feel right anymore.

I don't worry about the future of Slackware for three primary reasons.

1) Slackware has been consistently profitable. They are a small shop catering to a specific customer base, but that customer base is loyal and has shown a willingness to purchase the releases to ensure continued development.

2) Because of it's size. Patrick is the principal technical person and I think he has 1 or 2 other people for running the shop and website. Therefore there is little risk of him growing too big and potentially having problems staying solvent.

3) If the worst should happen and Patrick becomes either unable or unwilling to continue development of Slackware the development itself is quite managable by a small core team. Chances are if this disaster were to occur there would be a number of splinter distros that would try and fail but someone somewhere would probably get it close enough to right. Worst case scenario I could maintain a Slack box on my own in the same fashion as you would a LFS system. I would not want to, but it could be done. (Honestly if this were to happen I would probably go to Debian or OpenBSD)

Nothing is certain in this world but when it comes to Distros I have more faith in the consistency and predictability in Slackware then I do any other Linux distro. Redhat, Suse, etc.. may be bigger but they keep changing thier focus and or style to match current trends and attract more people. Slackware is the rock of Gibraltar in a torrid sea.
 
Old 08-16-2004, 01:58 PM   #11
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This topic comes up every 1,5-2 years or so.

- The homepage has not been updated since XXX
- Is Patrick V. the only remaining developer?
- Slackware will die because it is so "difficult" to install
- and so on

It is true that Slackware is not the eye-candy-gui-kde-bloated-standard-distro like SuSE, Mandrake or Redhat, but this is why people like Slack and this has been discussed more than a hundred times ("Why do you like Slackware"-Threads).

But just because you don't see Slackware ads in magazines and such, it doesn't mean that noone is using it. Slack's userbase is FAR larger than most people think. Perhaps not among the people who try Linux for the first time, but among admins, developers and people who are a bit more into Linux. And those are the people who influence development of Linux and open-source-projects in general, not the people who just use a standard Mandrake install for surfing and office and will never code one line of C. I guess that the percentage of users who are active in the open-source-community is one of the highest among all Linux distributions. That said, if Slackware should ever die officially (meaning Patrick V. quit), there would for sure be someone who would take it up.

Besides, Patrick once pointed out in an interview (don't have the link, anyone?) that Slackware has always been commerically successful. If you want to ensure that Slack is still around for years to come, BUY IT.
 
Old 08-18-2004, 01:19 PM   #12
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Originally posted by Slacker0815
If you want to ensure that Slack is still around for years to come, BUY IT.
Alternatively, if you don't really want the CDs, just donate - The Slackware organization will get a little bit more money this way. To be honest, it's not the most gratifying way of donating, but at least this way, you don't necessarily have to donate x dollars for the CDs, more or less is great :)

Steve
 
Old 08-18-2004, 02:00 PM   #13
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Slack is not going to die anytime soon. Just look at the number of threads in this forum
 
  


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