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Old 05-23-2017, 03:07 PM   #16
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Any pointers on how to tune the Gtk3 look? In particular, I'd like to switch back to "normal" scroll bar instead of this new thin one, and also my fonts in Firefox menus etc. are tiny now.
From an accessibility point of view it is absolutely shocking that Gtk-3 got away with those thin scrollbars. Huge titlebars, which you don't use, and tiny scrollbars, which you do use. Genius.
 
Old 05-23-2017, 03:12 PM   #17
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I patched this in the Firefox all.js so that the scrollbar behavior is the same as it was with GTK+ v2. Sorry, I meant to mention that in the ChangeLog.
Thanks Pat, I should have expected you were already on top of it.
 
Old 05-23-2017, 03:24 PM   #18
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From an accessibility point of view it is absolutely shocking that Gtk-3 got away with those thin scrollbars. Huge tit...
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Old 05-23-2017, 03:46 PM   #19
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Also to fix scrollbars to have arrows you can make a gtk.css in
~/.config/gtk-3.0/

in it have

*{

-GtkScrollbar-has-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-forward-stepper: 1;

}
Also to add if you want up down arrows at top and bottom add this in between the brackets

-GtkScrollbar-has-secondary-backward-stepper: 1;
-GtkScrollbar-has-secondary-forward-stepper: 1;

I did have some old settings that could be used to change the width of the scrollbar, but it seems these have already been changed and deprecated, in true gtk3 fashion. So will have to look around.
 
Old 05-23-2017, 03:50 PM   #20
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FYI, Firefox no longer uses my KDE4 theme except for the title bar. How is it with Plasma 5?

It sounds like Gtk-3 has been influenced by the touch screen interface.
 
Old 05-23-2017, 04:02 PM   #21
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FYI, Firefox no longer uses my KDE4 theme except for the title bar. How is it with Plasma 5?

It sounds like Gtk-3 has been influenced by the touch screen interface.
It's no better, the kde devs can't really do what they did for gtk2, building a theme engine that can duplicate their theme, and more importantly colors and shadows, because gtk3 has not been stable api, especially for themeing, it changes and breaks on almost every release. There is a breeze gtk3 theme for plasma 5, that just trys to create the basic look of breeze in gtk3, there was an oxygen gtk3 theme that was similar, but it is totally broken by gtk3 changes, and they can't really put the time into updating it. Neither of these will follow color theme or have menu shadows, and can easily break on any gtk3 update.
 
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:24 PM   #22
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It's not just for Xfce 4 compatibility, you know. GTK 3 actually has proper HiDPI support, while GTK 2 does not.
 
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Old 05-23-2017, 04:40 PM   #23
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It's not just for Xfce 4 compatibility, you know. GTK 3 actually has proper HiDPI support, while GTK 2 does not.
I was more wondering about whether it was worth it for me to recompile for my personal needs, or was that pointless because this was and upstream change, which it seems its is. I was just thinking it could be for Xfce, which would be fine with me and understandable, and I would just recompile. Gtk3 has HiDpi, wayland support, and maybe better font rendering, these are also good reasons to change, for me personally most of these don't matter as much as constant theme breakage, and I need menu bar mnemonic underline on all the time without having to hit ALT to see them, which gtk3 got rid of as setting, though thankfully firefox overrides this somehow.

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Old 05-24-2017, 01:48 AM   #24
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new current ChangeLog:

(n/network-scripts-14.2-noarch-6.txz: Rebuilt.
rc.inet1: Change actual DHCP_TIMEOUT to 15. Thanks to pataphysician.)
 
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