Slackware current and Gnome 3?

michaelinux · 04-12-2011, 11:24 PM

I've been testing gnome 3 (GSB) and everything is running well.. is not that bad but it could be better, one thing that is really annoying me is that i can't get my file's properties, if right click a file and go to properties, nautilus freezes.
the problem with the icons in the upper bar is solved.

Didier Spaier · 04-13-2011, 04:19 PM

May be you will get better support through one of the GSB channels (via mailing list or IRC), see here: http://gnomeslackbuild.org/support/

EDIT On the aforementioned page it is said that they do not provide support for GSB on -current, but who knows

gmjs · 04-25-2011, 06:44 AM

I don't fully understand the reasons why GNOME 2 was dropped from Slackware, but perhaps GNOME 3 may become an official part of future Slackware releases? It would be great to see the return of GNOME to the Slackware desktop.

sycamorex · 04-25-2011, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gmjs

I don't fully understand the reasons why GNOME 2 was dropped from Slackware, but perhaps GNOME 3 may become an official part of future Slackware releases? It would be great to see the return of GNOME to the Slackware desktop.

I wouldn't count on it.

GazL · 04-25-2011, 07:08 AM

From what I understand, Gnome was dropped simply because it took too much time and effort to build and maintain. In contrast, KDE is relatively easy to build and has only a fraction of the number of packages. If you search back on these forums you'll no doubt find more detail if you're really interested.

I guess whether Gnome ever becomes part of official Slackware again will depend on whether that situation has changed.

allend · 04-25-2011, 08:10 AM

From the 10.2 ChangeLog:

Quote:

gnome/*: Removed from -current, and turned over to community support and
distribution. I'm not going to rehash all the reasons behind this, but it's
been under consideration for more than four years. There are already good
projects in place to provide Slackware GNOME for those who want it, and
these are more complete than what Slackware has shipped in the past. So, if
you're looking for GNOME for Slackware -current, I would recommend looking at
these two projects for well-built packages that follow a policy of minimal
interference with the base Slackware system:

http://gsb.sf.net
http://gware.sf.net

There is also Dropline, of course, which is quite popular. However, due to
their policy of adding PAM and replacing large system packages (like the
entire X11 system) with their own versions, I can't give quite the same sort
of nod to Dropline. Nevertheless, it remains another choice, and it's _your_
system, so I will also mention their project:

http://www.dropline.net/gnome/

Please do not incorrectly interpret any of this as a slight against GNOME
itself, which (although it does usually need to be fixed and polished beyond
the way it ships from upstream more so than, say, KDE or XFce) is a decent
desktop choice. So are a lot of others, but Slackware does not need to ship
every choice. GNOME is and always has been a moving target (even the
"stable" releases usually aren't quite ready yet) that really does demand a
team to keep up on all the changes (many of which are not always well
documented). I fully expect that this move will improve the quality of both
Slackware itself, and the quality (and quantity) of the GNOME options
available for it.

Folks, this is how open source is supposed to work. Enjoy. :-)

In short, GNOME and Slackware diverged too far.

rmjohnso · 04-25-2011, 08:23 AM

I tried the GSB install of Gnome 3 last week, and I wasn't too fond of it in its current state. It seemed HIGHLY unstable. I may try again when Gnome 3 and 13.37 settle down a bit more.

willysr · 04-25-2011, 05:45 PM

GSB 3.0 is supposed to work under -Current. You might find it unstable if you use 13.1 as the base system

rmjohnso · 04-25-2011, 06:30 PM

I'm using -current as the base system. It was still unstable.

willysr · 04-25-2011, 07:29 PM

Have you updated to the latest version of GSB 3?
They are updating the repository almost daily

rmjohnso · 04-25-2011, 07:43 PM

No, as I said, I may try again once GSB 3 settles down.

willysr · 04-25-2011, 11:09 PM

it's a running target AFAIK means that it keeps updating itself until the next GNOME is released

narz · 04-25-2011, 11:28 PM

I'm curious why slackware users would want Gnome in the first place? I've used Gnome in the past on other distributions and I never saw what was so great about it. Xfce gives you a native GTK desktop, uses less resources and is less buggy. I don't know, I guess I don't ask very much from my desktop though either.

rmjohnso · 04-26-2011, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by narz

I'm curious why slackware users would want Gnome in the first place? I've used Gnome in the past on other distributions and I never saw what was so great about it. Xfce gives you a native GTK desktop, uses less resources and is less buggy. I don't know, I guess I don't ask very much from my desktop though either.

Personally, I'm not interested in running GNOME as my primary DE. However, there are some fundamental changes in how the UI works that was implemented with GNOME 3, and I'm curious as to what I will think about them after I use it.

As for GNOME on Slackware, I'm also more interested in having a number of the libraries and other dependencies for when I want to use some applications that require all of them under XFCE.