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H_TeXMeX_H 02-02-2011 10:02 AM

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* Any 3D functionality that might exist is still unsupported. Do not ask for instructions to try it. But you can read GalliumHowto in case you are brave enough.
I think I'll try it when they support it, and when the performance is not so horrendous. I don't need lots of FPS for the games that I play, but I need some.

Didier Spaier 02-02-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mrclisdue (Post 4245924)
I'll have the pc for another day or two, so is there anything specific you'd like me to do, or point me in the right investigative direction...?

Just fire up a terminal, type 'glxgears' and stop it after, say, 10 results.

Please do that under Fluxbox and under KDE and give the maximum result (number of FPS or frames per second) in both cases.

Thanks in advance,

afreitascs 02-02-2011 09:07 PM

I typed 'glxgears' in KDE and I had to reset the machine ... Everything froze!
My video card is a 9500 GT.
I went back to nvidia drivers on my main OS, but I realize that
Nouveau driver he has a future .

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Under the same command using nvidia drivers, more specifically

NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-260.19.36.run

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base1@base1:~$ glxgears
9315 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1862.981 FPS
9748 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1949.465 FPS
9974 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1990.494 FPS
9880 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1975.163 FPS
9797 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1959.368 FPS
9976 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1995.130 FPS
10145 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2028.792 FPS
10110 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2021.979 FPS
10150 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2028.648 FPS
10200 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2039.810 FPS
^C
base1@base1:~$
I'm not sure if the information is for something, but there it is! :-)

smoooth103 02-02-2011 09:48 PM

I reverted to proprietary nvidia drivers after 5 minutes with nouveau. Nouveau is great for 2D but I could not get 3D/GLX working (unsupported as of yet) which I need for a few applications. Once nouveau has 3D support I'll be ready to switch! Until then, NVIDIA continues to provide great linux support. :)

D1ver 02-02-2011 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smoooth103 (Post 4246580)
Nouveau is great for 2D but I could not get 3D/GLX working (unsupported as of yet) which I need for a few applications. Once nouveau has 3D support I'll be ready to switch! Until then, NVIDIA continues to provide great linux support. :)

This pretty much sums it up for me too. I'd happily switch to the open source driver in a heart beat if it could match the binary blob for performance. Until then I'm stoked for any support Nvidia throws me. :)

For laughs, I get 12000 FPS in glxgears with the binary driver lol.

Didier Spaier 02-03-2011 02:00 AM

To sum it up YMMV, mostly depending on the GPU model and the DE/WM you are using.

People wanting to get help can stop by #nouveau on IRC.

People wanting to help enhancing Nouveau can register @ http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/Nouveau

People having problems in KDE and not needing 3D acceleration can change the renderer or disable compositing in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc, or use another DE/WM

3D games addicts, better stick to the blob for now.

sahko 02-03-2011 03:19 AM

Here's an interesting video from the recent Linux conference in Brisbane AU featuring Keith Packard about the feature of X, who at some point at the end responding to a question says (after expaining many of the changes the X stack will go through): "we dont dont care about the blobs, they will have to play along with open source".

Hopefully nvidia will start cooperating into the production of a decent open source driver soon.

D1ver 02-03-2011 04:57 AM

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Originally Posted by sahko (Post 4246835)
Here's an interesting video from the recent Linux conference in Brisbane AU featuring Keith Packard about the feature of X, who at some point at the end responding to a question says (after expaining many of the changes the X stack will go through): "we dont dont care about the blobs, they will have to play along with open source".

Hopefully nvidia will start cooperating into the production of a decent open source driver soon.

That was actually a really interesting watch, though I didn't understand a whole lot of it. It really is amazing how much is taken for granted and is going on behind the scenes, reminds me of this comic [XKCD].

The last comment of playing hardball with the graphics card companies has me a little worried though, I'd hate to see a step back in performance.


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