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Old 09-21-2014, 05:18 PM   #16
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Originally Posted by moisespedro View Post
"i-microsofticized" user" is nothing more than pure stereotyping
Reworded for better clearness, please see above. It wasn't intended to offend you, or anyone else. After all, we are "GNU/Linux zealots", aren't we? I like it.

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Old 09-21-2014, 05:23 PM   #17
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I didn't feel offended. I just think it is bashing an entire category of users for no good reason. And well, zealot sounds better than freetards lol
 
Old 09-21-2014, 06:00 PM   #18
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I didn't feel offended. I just think it is bashing an entire category of users for no good reason. And well, zealot sounds better than freetards lol
I didn't feel I was bashing anyone: in fact I consider myself enough "linuxicized" to refer that way to OS strangers. And of course "zealot" is an interesting word:

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zealot (n.)
early 14c., "member of a militant 1st century Jewish sect which fiercely resisted the Romans in Palestine," from Late Latin zelotes, from Greek zelotes "one who is a zealous follower," from zeloun "to be zealous," from zelos "zeal" (see zeal). Extended sense of "a fanatical enthusiast" first recorded 1630s (earlier in this sense was zelator, mid-15c.).
(Online Etymology Dictionary)
This shows that the original meaning doesn't have a negative connotation. Of course Linux zealotry, far from being comparable to the one represented by the sicarii, is quite innocuous.

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Old 09-22-2014, 05:17 AM   #19
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Looking for the ARM boards as cheaper general purpose desktop computer alternative?

Well, there isn't free lunch, also there isn't the Magic & Cheap ARM Alternative...

Technically, if we look to similar performances, even on a low-end desktop, the x86 platform is much cheaper than the ARM counterpart.

Case study:

The ONLY ARM board which I seen capable to offer a (low-end) desktop experience, at a reasonable price, is TBS-2910 Matrix. On EBAY, you can find it at around EUR 165. Which performances offer this board? Well, even a super-cheapo VIA x86 pico ATX board works better. And an EUR 50, x86 built in dual core processor board, like E350M1 board is hugely superior to this ARM counterpart.

ALSO, in other hand, with EUR 165, you can build a full fledged x86 desktop PC... For REAL.

Finally, Raspberry Pi, in all its incarnations, are just antiquated devices today. Toys for Grown ups. Even in the ARM World, a today device sports minimum an dual core CPU, 1-2 GB RAM, some even an SATA port. Like Banana Pi, or Cubieboard2, Cubietruck, A20 Olimexino, A20 Marsboard, RK3066 Marsboard, Radxa Rock, TBS-2910 Matrix, etc...

My sugestion to Kiki, if you want a cheap desktop replacement for your clients, go to the Intel ATOM and/or better the AMD E350 cheapo boards, and STAY AWAY LIKE HELL from the ARM toys...

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Old 09-23-2014, 02:21 AM   #20
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I have the raspberry pi and really enjoy them, it works well for what it is used for. The first thing was to over clock it to 1 gb with a cooling fan, and 3 heat sinks. I have a music server that runs 24/7 for the past 6 months with no problems. The second one is a server for my slackware machines backup and it does that well. I also use one for my xlog program to log my ham radio contacts and it does that well.
 
Old 09-25-2014, 06:02 PM   #21
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@55020:
-on what kernel did You run it? I run "3.12.25+"
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Linux version 3.12.25+ (dc4@dc4-Latitude-E6510) (gcc version 4.8.3 20140303 (prerelease) (crosstool-NG linaro-1.13.1+bzr2650 - Linaro GCC 2014.03) ) #700 PREEMPT Thu Jul 24 17:51:46 BST 2014
-yes support is kind of all over the place IMHO, the one guy had a decent HOWTO on a site I have to dig out

@others:

Hi, FWIW:
RPi B:
~8Mbytes/sec samba/ftp peak (~60% of time)
it runs conservative 1GHz overclock (600...1000MHz) (up to 58C in the PVC box)
it uses about 7W of power peak
it uses USB 2.5" HDD off an 1A 5V USB phone charger
it boots snappy (about 12 sec)
yes I don't like it's /boot/ is vfat, but it's mounted "ro"
yes performance is "tarpit" but @7W it's forgivable, don't You find?
no fans (RAM not clocked/overvolted), no heat sinks added
SD card is reliable and reads as any class10 would on Android for example?
it's no speed train but for a 7/24 it beats anything close to that price? even a dd-wrt host would cost more and be able to do less IMHO?
but I would be glad it had 1Gb LAN and where it on a fast serial line instead of the USB (apparently 2.0 compliant on my B)
slackware's RAM usage is excellent (~80% disk cache)
I make local-time at boot from rc.local with rdate add-on command
i enjoy it's performace via gkrellmd / gkrellm -s ${LAN_IP}
 
Old 09-25-2014, 07:45 PM   #22
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I don't know what the 2nd hand situation is in France, but here in Australia an ex-govenment machine, usually 64 bit and usually brands like HP or Dell sell for AUD$50-60. I have one with slackware64-14.1 sitting next to me I purchased for $55 just over a year ago. Came with vista loaded + COA (but never got booted :P). Oh, I did up the RAM from 2GB to 4GB at extra cost of $15, so it owes me $70.

I have a Pi, but they are pretty useless on desktop, even with a light wm like JWM, and for browsing only lynx/links is bearable. Fine as a light server though.
 
Old 10-02-2014, 06:33 PM   #23
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Another vote for the Pi

Original 256MB Model B, boots from the SD card but after that the OS (Slackwarearm 14.0) and swap are on an old 40GB IDE drive in a USB enclosure, attached also is a 2TB USB drive.

Roles,
rsync on a cronjob backs up personal documents from local machines
pulls rsync (some via ssh), wget and git from various places on the net
local slack mirror for slackpkg and automated install scripts
DHCP server for local machines
Serves up via TFTP OS (Slack64-14.1) for the works laptop as a diskless workstation when I'm not doing work work
Central point for collecting syslogs from local machines, all logs viewable in one place
Serves up via NFS multimedia files to local machines

Uptime 263 days (survived a brownout that took down every other box in the house and even the alarm clock)

Also have a 512MB Model B which is the development machine for my own attempt at a hard float slackware port (stalled attempt, life got in the way - it boots and I can telnet in, that's about it)

Quiet and extremely frugal on the juice side with enough computing power to do some useful stuff, pick the right jobs for it and it will do them right.

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Old 10-07-2014, 05:26 AM   #24
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@01micko,

Gidday mate, what's your recommended source for buying ex-gov computers in Australia?

Cheers,

Michael
 
Old 10-07-2014, 05:41 AM   #25
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I have to admit one thing I haven't tried yet with the Pi is using it as a VLC or RDC client to a VM or even as a LTSP client. If things stop dying on me long enough that I can afford to get another monitor I might give that a go.
 
  


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