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Alien Bob 10-19-2015 07:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcninja (Post 5436788)
PAM is made by red hat, the same guys behind the disastrous pulseaudio and systemd. I don't want red hat poisoning slackware.

Come on, be a bit more nuance would be good for you. PAM is not created by Lennart Poettering and friends (pulseaudio and systemd are). Redhat has done a lot of good both for Linux and for Open Source and Open Standards. However they are a business and making money is a business goal. Nothing wrong with that.
Slackware exists to keep the balance and ensure that we won't end up with a monoculture, because even a Open Source based monoculture is not a always a good thing.

ReaperX7 10-19-2015 07:44 AM

Linux-PAM isn't the only implementation of PAM for GNU/Linux, but it currently is the most widely used by comparison to OpenPAM which requires extra work to use in place of Linux-PAM as well as supplemental modules. However, both can be used however you see fit, but they are not compatible with each other.

Kerberos isn't the only Krb5 implementation as well. There is Heimdal and another from the GNU project whose name evades me.

Red Hat has contributed a lot to GNU/Linux, but that doesn't mean they have all the keys to the kingdom nor make all the decisions for GNU/Linux.

ivandi 10-19-2015 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chemfire (Post 5436782)

In your "Slackware + Kerberos no PAM" configuration did the Kerberos build result in a login.krb5 binary? If it did and you make that the login program in /etc/inittab does that then allow you to login as a domain user? This used to work for me on prior versions of Slackware.

krb5_appl is no longer part of the main distribution.

Quote:

Kerberos Version 5 Applications, Release 1.0

Release Notes
The MIT Kerberos Team

Introduction
------------

Please refer to the NOTICE file for copyright, license, and
acknowledgement information applying to this package.

This package contains Kerberized versions of telnet, rlogin, rsh, rcp,
and ftp clients and daemons, as well as a terminal login program which
can obtain Kerberos credentials when presented with the user's
password.


These programs are no longer in wide use, having been supplanted in
many environments by OpenSSH, but there is still some interest in
their continued maintenance. These programs were included in the main
Kerberos 5 distribution through release 1.7, but are now packaged
separately.


pam_krb5 is used nowadays.


Cheers

orbea 10-19-2015 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 5436801)
Come on, be a bit more nuance would be good for you. PAM is not created by Lennart Poettering and friends (pulseaudio and systemd are). Redhat has done a lot of good both for Linux and for Open Source and Open Standards. However they are a business and making money is a business goal. Nothing wrong with that.
Slackware exists to keep the balance and ensure that we won't end up with a monoculture, because even a Open Source based monoculture is not a always a good thing.

While Lennart Poettering and his associates like Key Sievers have only submitted patches to pam, its maintainer is the next best thing, a microsoft dev.

http://andrewmorgan.ie/about-2/

ReaperX7 10-19-2015 10:13 AM

Microsoft at several points did have UNIX systems and support vectors. Namely XENIX way back in the dinosaur days and the UNIX Application Compatibility Layer for Windows Vista and 7. You'd be surprised who works on what in FOSS if you dig deep enough. Not all developers stick to a single system, and for various reasons. I suggest you ask them though for that answer of "why".

Alien Bob 10-19-2015 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orbea (Post 5436879)
While Lennart Poettering and his associates like Key Sievers have only submitted patches to pam, its maintainer is the next best thing, a microsoft dev.

http://andrewmorgan.ie/about-2/

I miss the nuance here as well. Andrew is working for an IT company, where do you read he is a "Microsoft Dev"? He is Redhat Certified just like he is Microsoft and Citrix certified.

I myself work on Slackware Linux in my own spare time, but my daily work is running a MS Windows helpdesk (with a UNIX component). Does that make me evil? Should you discard Slackware right here and now because of my Microsoft Windows involvement?

Ffs.

ponce 10-19-2015 10:23 AM

Et tu, Brute? ;)

kikinovak 10-19-2015 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcninja (Post 5436788)
PAM is made by red hat, the same guys behind the disastrous pulseaudio and systemd. I don't want red hat poisoning slackware.

Well, why not clean your system of all the Red Hat stuff and see how well that goes?

Code:

# removepkg glibc-solibs kernel-modules
:hattip:

orbea 10-19-2015 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alien Bob (Post 5436886)
I miss the nuance here as well. Andrew is working for an IT company, where do you read he is a "Microsoft Dev"? He is Redhat Certified just like he is Microsoft and Citrix certified.

I myself work on Slackware Linux in my own spare time, but my daily work is running a MS Windows helpdesk (with a UNIX component). Does that make me evil? Should you discard Slackware right here and now because of my Microsoft Windows involvement?

Ffs.

Your blog indicates pretty well what you have been up to in slackware, slackware buildscripts are easy to read as well and as far as I can tell you haven't been developing something so abstract and hassle prone as k3b/pam. Though you are right that upon looking at his site again, it doesn't clearly say anything other than he works with microsoft products, my mistake. What his site doesn't really show at all is much of anything useful about what he has developed or maintains. That said, perhaps it should been clearer I wasn't fully serious, being associated with microsoft or redhat is not terrible by itself, it just so happens that more often than not developers that work with either make things far more abstract and complicated than it ever should be while not providing much of any gain. Which only increases the burden on users in learning how their systems work and increasing the dictinction and & reliance upon developpers who often are more interested in telling their users what they want rather than making what their users want.

cwizardone 10-19-2015 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pcninja (Post 5436788)
....is made by red hat, the same guys behind the disastrous pulseaudio and systemd. I don't want red hat poisoning slackware.

As much as I've come to dislike red hat and a couple of their developers, pulseaudio works and works well.

Qury 10-19-2015 11:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 5436929)
...pulseaudio works and works well.

I have the same experience,as much as i've disliked pulseaudio in the past, it works well for me now. :hattip:
It builds fine from SBo and it only requires adding a minimal /etc/asound.rc to work unlike PAM + friends.

Didier Spaier 10-19-2015 01:50 PM

When Linux can help you install Windows Vista.
 
Just for fun, this was just posted on the Syslinux mailing list: http://www.syslinux.org/archives/201...er/024461.html...

If someone asks I can translate it to English or French, although this mini-howto be understandable even by a beginner in Spanish. ;)

Smokey_justme 10-19-2015 03:07 PM

Code:


1. Download the last syslinux version from http://www.syslinux.org/wiki/index.php/Download

*NOTE:* latest right now is 6.03

2. Unzip

3. Make a folder on your usb drive named syslinux and copy the following files from the archive you downloaded, into that folder:

syslinux-6.03\bios\com32\menu\vesamenu.c32

syslinux-6.03\bios\com32\menu\vesamenu.c32

syslinux-6.03\bios\com32\lib\libcom32.c32

syslinux-6.03\bios\com32\chain\chain.c32

syslinux-6.03\bios\com32\libutil\libutil.c32



4. From an administrative console go in syslinux\bios\win32 and run the following command

syslinux.exe -m -a f d syslinux h:

Where h: is the drive letter of the usb drive

This will install ldlinux.c32 and ldlinux in the syslinux folder, install the running code in the MBR and mark the partition as active.



5. Make a file named syslinux.cfg in the syslinux folder and put the following information in it:

UI vesamenu.c32

MENU TITLE Instalador via USB Aeana Malaga

MENU AUTOBOOT Windows setup will start in # seconds

Timeout 300

TOTALTIMEOUT 9000

DEFAULT boot_hd0

LABEL boot_hd0

MENU LABEL Boot from first HDD

COM32 chain.c32

APPEND hd0

LABEL windows_installer

MENU LABEL Install Windows

COM32 chain.c32

APPEND boot 1 ntldr=/bootmgr

6. Finally copy all the content from the Windows Vista DVD to the usb drive.

LE: Didier, sorry, I missread your post and thought you wanted it translated (not offering if someone needs it)... ehh.. no biggie now..

kikinovak 10-19-2015 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Didier Spaier (Post 5437023)
Just for fun, this was just posted on the Syslinux mailing list: http://www.syslinux.org/archives/201...er/024461.html...

Why did you post this in this thread?

Didier Spaier 10-19-2015 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kikinovak (Post 5437082)
Why did you post this in this thread?

As a follow up of posts #275 and 276, in other words "par association d'idées". Well, I admit that's way off topic though.


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