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Old 04-13-2021, 03:28 PM   #61
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Touché
 
Old 04-13-2021, 06:57 PM   #62
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Old 04-13-2021, 10:54 PM   #63
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Tadgy maintains a reliable, well-organized, and lightning-fast repo at slackware.uk that I rely upon that makes it easy to keep -current up-to-date. I also send him a meagre donation. It is a good thing to support those who help keep slackware going.

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Old 04-14-2021, 12:49 AM   #64
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That worked maybe a decade or two ago, but it doesn't look like that works these days. It is a funny cliche to not "wrestle with a pig because you both get dirty and the pig likes it" but fakery unchallenged often gains traction even long after debunked if the time for debunking is much later than the accusation. IMHO, if it is worth defending, defend it, even against scurrilous and ridiculous FUD. HOW one does that is certainly important but not defending at all is very risky. Consider the large numbers of people who actually believe the Earth is flat or Moon Landing was Hollywood fakery.

It is a challenge to debunk with grace, but I think it's worth the effort. Besides, at best ignoring completely lends an air of "elitist snobs and hipsters" not to be trusted.
I agree, but it's still a huge waste of time. The accounts that are obviously used for trolling should be suspended.
 
Old 04-14-2021, 05:00 AM   #65
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Oh? Using two accounts here on LQ, just to be able to offend everyone and still pretend to contribute?
It's hard to believe. So please show me which of your posts were meant to address your bugs. I will honestly read them all.
Not a problem. I had two accounts. The oldest one I forgot (I'm too lazy to search for it), here is from another one. Just one example of how much f..k is given to critical bugs:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6141062
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6150198

Serious bug is still there. Who needs LVM snapshots on encrypted LUKS, right? Buggy plasma slowing down releases is more important than basic functionality.

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Old 04-14-2021, 05:16 AM   #66
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Have you noticed a pattern with these threads? They always start with a post that is provocative but not so obviously trollish that people will just ignore it. Instead it seems to be making a valid criticism of our much loved distro, so we feel we have to answer it. Over the next few days, the thread develops into a flame war and finally gets locked or ignored. And the day after that, the next one pops up.
This is called paranoia. They always ... they do ... they are connected ... there is a pattern ...
 
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Old 04-14-2021, 05:18 AM   #67
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An advice to everyone on this forum who is confronted to a troll:
- don't answer to him,
- don't argue with him,
- just ignore him,
- he doesn't deserve any attention, not even a word or comment on what is says.

The best way to treat that kind of person is to act as if he was transparent.
The trolls are fed by your reactions, when you tease them they over react.
So let them go away by themself.
Write a book about it.
 
Old 04-14-2021, 05:21 AM   #68
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You might want to report it to KDE. https://bugs.kde.org/
No, it's better to report it directly to nVidia.
 
Old 04-14-2021, 05:59 AM   #69
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I agree, but it's still a huge waste of time. The accounts that are obviously used for trolling should be suspended.
Obvious to whom? Isn't that a subjective value judgment? If viewed as welcome activity and an opportunity to extol and demonstate one's virtues it looks like "making lemonade out of lemons" to me.

If you owned a store that experienced zero shoplifting, it is likely your store also has zero or at least very low sales. Demand is an essential part of of what is valued. Supply is not enough on it's own. If a thing is highly valued, highly in demand, by nature it will also be attacked, stolen, vilified, etc as well as sought after.

I can't recall if it was actually Bill Gates, but some top level memo revealed that it was Microsoft's policy that "if an OS is going to be pirated, we want it to be ours". Seems that attitude has served them well.

If one goes through life never upsetting anyone, it is unlikely that person did anything of any impact or influence. Things are rarely so simple as to be all good or all bad, or even objectively good or bad. They are all package deals subjectively evaluated.
 
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Old 04-14-2021, 06:14 AM   #70
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I'm starting to think that some of the so-called 'trolls' are just expressing truths that people don't want to hear.
 
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Old 04-14-2021, 06:24 AM   #71
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Heya Lysander666... should be heavy emphasis on "some". Because of my attitude of seeing trolling as an opportunity, I read, and usually respond to, all of them. Some are indeed valid concerns simply from a different set of values, not actual trolling. Some, however, are just pure Schadenfreude to trigger, or at least, misinformation, and need to be exposed.
 
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Old 04-14-2021, 07:41 AM   #72
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The ignore list item is great.
Thanks to this, I'm no more polluted by trollisms.

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Old 04-14-2021, 07:45 AM   #73
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the ignore list item is great.
I totally agree! I never blacklist anyone anywhere, but I'm always happy when unpleasant people blacklist me and never annoy me with their boring and/or useless responses.
 
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Old 04-14-2021, 08:22 AM   #74
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Not a problem. I had two accounts. The oldest one I forgot (I'm too lazy to search for it), here is from another one. Just one example of how much f..k is given to critical bugs:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6141062
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6150198

Serious bug is still there. Who needs LVM snapshots on encrypted LUKS, right? Buggy plasma slowing down releases is more important than basic functionality.
If this is critical and you feel it needs more discussion have you made a dedicated thread for it? If not why?

The 'requests' thread is gigantic, I'm pretty sure things get missed all the time..

Surely you must understand why it's grating when you come in here with a new user account complaining about how terrible everything is and only JUST NOW give an example of your grievances, which I am not unsympathetic towards..

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Old 04-14-2021, 08:43 AM   #75
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I'm starting to think that some of the so-called 'trolls' are just expressing truths that people don't want to hear.
It could be useful to express your thoughts clearer.
Anyway I'm starting to think your comments in this forum are no more useful nor helpful.

Even ialexand managed to do it. After 80 posts or so, true, but you have much more.
 
  


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