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Old 08-13-2019, 08:50 PM   #16
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In the past year I had only a single problem with -current.

I'm not very happy about the fact that qt5 is not in the basic system though. Kde4 is old, I'd even prefer it dropped completely than having an obsolete version.

The version number doesn't matter to me although I'm not a marketing expert.
 
Old 08-14-2019, 07:55 AM   #17
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mleh... let's not follow the Ubuntu convention...
 
Old 08-14-2019, 08:04 AM   #18
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I'm a Slackware64-current user; it's running on three desktops and two laptops. Current is stable for me.
Same here; I use it on my daily driver (an FX-8370 w/32GB on an ASUS M5A99FX), as well as on 8 older computers (mid 2000s); all work without issue.
 
Old 08-16-2019, 07:06 PM   #19
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What do you think mates?
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I am not your mate.
I am not a native English speaker, so I am probably missing some nuance here. Is "mate" derogatory in any way? I naively thought it was used in some countries (maybe Australia?) a bit like "guys" in the USA.

Would the sentence "What do you guys think?" be as offensive and/or provoke the same reaction?

Could any better English speaker enlighten me on this?

Thanks in advance

Phil
 
Old 08-16-2019, 07:16 PM   #20
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I think the term is somewhat misunderstood internationally.

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What do you think mates?
is awkward and not something which a native English speaker would necessarily say, since 'mate' is normally used in the singular. Generally it's used positively as in, "he's my mate", "all right, mate?", "you OK, mate?". One could say, "I'm going out with my mates tonight" I suppose, but "what you do you think, mates?" is just odd, to my mind.

It can also be used threateningly though, in the same way as 'pal' can be in the US, e.g. "what's you problem, mate?", "you trying to start something, mate?" etc.

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Would the sentence "What do you guys think?" be as offensive and/or provoke the same reaction?l
It wouldn't be offensive, just weird. 'Mate' is generally used directly to one person, not to address a group. One wouldn't say, "what do you mates think?", it would come across as unnatural.

There's a line from a Nightwish song that goes:

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"Time to die, poor mates,
You made me what I am!"
which has clearly been written by a non-native English speaker [the band are Finnish]. "Poor mates" is rather strange. I see what they're trying to do, but it doesn't work.

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Old 08-16-2019, 08:31 PM   #21
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Drop kde4 for i3 imo... solves a lot of ... issues
 
Old 08-16-2019, 10:13 PM   #22
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Anyway, it's only Mint and Ubuntu on 19 isn't it? Debian has just released version 10.
And RHEL recently released version 8, after some 5 years (7 was from 2014),
While SLE is at 15 (with a point update to 15.1), after skipping 2 major version numbers (the previous was SLE 12, which was released in 2014 too).
 
Old 08-16-2019, 10:16 PM   #23
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not something which a native English speaker would necessarily say, since 'mate' is normally used in the singular.
Unless he's Australian: there the usage of "mate" and "mates" is much more common.
 
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Old 08-16-2019, 10:39 PM   #24
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I think the term is somewhat misunderstood internationally.
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Thanks for the detailed explanation!
 
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Old 08-17-2019, 12:26 AM   #25
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In America, taken literally "mate" means someone with whom one is sexually intimate, but I think everyone here is aware of how it's used more casually in other countries :-)

As for the release schedule, I think Pat would really like to release more frequently, but will not make a release when there are compelling technical reasons to not do so.
 
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Old 08-17-2019, 02:08 AM   #26
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Yeah - dinky di Aussie here.

The Australian concept of mateship is somewhat unique, tending to resist concise definition. It implies familiarity and bonding to a common cause. It also implies mutual obligation and reliance.

If I say "You are my mate", it implies friendship, shared experience, shared beliefs and previously demonstrated support when it was wanted.
If I "go out with my mates", I expect friendship and a fun time with a group of familiars.
If I ask, "Can we be mates on this issue?", I am asking that the other person will fully support me in words and deeds on an issue.
If I say, "Thanks mate", to a stranger who stopped and helped me change a punctured tyre, I am acknowledging an unrequested good deed born from the stranger's desire to help.

If I say "I am not your mate", I am saying that I do not feel any familiarity, I am not bonded to your issue and feel no need to provide support.
 
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Old 08-17-2019, 03:25 AM   #27
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Thanks Gerard Lally, this is the idea.

I hear some asking, "Why is Slackware on 14.2 and the other system on 19?
That's a pretty dumb question. And I think that would also be the best answer to that question. It's not really a reason to up the versioning number.

A quick way to up it, would be to convert it to binary. Slackware version 1111.0
(why is ubuntu only on version 18.04, while slackware is already on 1111.0? )

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Old 08-17-2019, 03:47 AM   #28
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In America, taken literally "mate" means someone with whom one is sexually intimate
Like in, emmmm, mating?
 
Old 08-17-2019, 05:58 AM   #29
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Could any better English speaker enlighten me on this?
Allen and lysander have covered it fully, but the short answer is that it's a term whose use has to be earned.

Using it with strangers there's a good chance it will seem overly familiar. Worse case: it may be taken sarcastically (as in the examples lysander gave earlier) which would not be good. A "Thanks, mate." to someone who just helped you, or did you a favour will be very unlikely to be taken the wrong way though and is an appropriate and friendly use of the term.

We have something similar in my part of the world (English Midlands). It's customary (although dying out in younger generations) to refer to members of the opposite sex as "duck" (it applies both ways, there's nothing sexist about it): "Eyup me duck", or "Thanks, duck". I believe Geordies use "Pet" in a similar way. It's just our way of being friendly, but when I go south I have to stop myself using these terms as southerners get really bent out of shape if you use it towards them. I guess that just like the 'mate' issue here, they believe we're being overly familiar. People are odd!
 
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Old 08-17-2019, 07:08 AM   #30
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Would the sentence "What do you guys think?" be as offensive and/or provoke the same reaction?
In the "Politically Correct" society we live in today, yes the term "guys" is offensive, since there are now a million and one genders and only one of them is "male" or a "man" which seems to also be offensive now.

As for the version numbering, Slackware is in it's own league and doesn't need to follow along like the rest of the lemmings.

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