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RagingBull 04-27-2012 09:37 PM

Slackware 13.37 First Impressions
 
Good day Slackers!

I wanted to share my opinions on the most recent Slackware release 13.37 for others who may be considering installation of this great, and iconic distro. I haven't ran Slackware since version 12, and I must say that I am impressed with the my new install of 13.37. I hope by sharing my experience that I may relieve any doubts others may have about installing and trying the latest release of Slackware.

This was without a doubt the easiest installation that I have completed out of all the distro's I have ran (Redhat, SuSe, Slackware, YellowDog, Ubuntu). I didn't have to spend a lot of time trying to get my wireless card or networking in general to function like I have with other installs of slackware or other distro's. Installing flash, and dvd codecs was a breeze thanks to Alien Bob! What a relief! I really appreciate the straight forward installation, and the update method. It took me a matter of a few hours to install, add user accounts, setup permissions, update the system, and do some basic configuring.

Previous to installing Slackware 13.37 I was running Ubuntu. My decision to leave Ubuntu came with the introduction of Ubuntu 11.10 with the Unity desktop (I really don't care for Gnome 3 or Unity) that I upgraded to from the previous release. I certainly was not impressed with the new desktop environment, and I'm also tired of the cycling updates that Canonical releases that tend to cause major system problems from time to time. I suspect that is largely a result of developers having to adhere to strict update deadlines.

The thing that I love most about Slackware is the stability, and rock solid security. Those are qualities that most Slackers if not all appreciate most about the distro, and myself included. With the installation of 13.37 I can now also say that I really value the ease of setup and configuration. There really is a lot to be said for simplicity, and having control over every aspect of your system. I feel that having the lack of automated programs for updating, installing, and configuration really helps an administrator cut down on unintended problems from automatic updates and automatic dependency resolution. Additionally if something does go wrong the fix is usually easy and straight forward. It's easy to fix a problem when you know where the files are you need to edit or manipulate. That is something that I can't say for other distros that install based on preconfigured settings.

If your looking for a distro that is easy to install, is rock solid stable, and allows you to pilot the ship then look no further than the new Slackware release 13.37. It feels good to be a Slacker again!Thanks for listening to my rant.

red_fire 04-27-2012 09:54 PM

welcome back to the club! :D

cwizardone 04-28-2012 09:49 AM

@RagingBull,
Very nice first post. You know, of course, the most "recent" release was a year old, yesterday, 27 April 2012 ,the date of your post? Perhaps this was a little satire on your part? :)

RagingBull 04-28-2012 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 4665351)
@RagingBull,
Very nice first post. You know, of course, the most "recent" release was a year old, yesterday, 27 April 2012 ,the date of your post? Perhaps this was a little satire on your part? :)

Lol yes I know its a year old, but it's still new to me. When writing the post I thought someone would mention this fact. I guess I'm a little behind the power curve on this release, lol. :)

red_fire 04-28-2012 07:04 PM

Don't worry,, you're not the only one. . I've only upgraded to 13.37 a few weeks ago ;)

kingbeowulf 04-29-2012 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by RagingBull (Post 4665534)
Lol yes I know its a year old, but it's still new to me. When writing the post I thought someone would mention this fact. I guess I'm a little behind the power curve on this release, lol. :)

I personally consider "upgrading" every few months as stupid. Besides, although 13.37 was released a year ago it is not "outdated" - just check patches. A too rapid release cycle can be a detriment.

If you want "bleeding edge" there is always Slackware-current.

RagingBull 04-29-2012 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kingbeowulf (Post 4665775)
I personally consider "upgrading" every few months as stupid. Besides, although 13.37 was released a year ago it is not "outdated" - just check patches. A too rapid release cycle can be a detriment.

If you want "bleeding edge" there is always Slackware-current.

I agree, and believe that is the reason for the semi-often problematic updates with Ubuntu. I'm really happy with 13.37 myself, and I don't have any plans on doing any upgrades other than for security purposes.

cwizardone 04-29-2012 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kingbeowulf (Post 4665775)
I personally consider "upgrading" every few months as stupid. Besides, although 13.37 was released a year ago it is not "outdated" - just check patches. A too rapid release cycle can be a detriment.

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I first starting using Slackware in 1995, and have returned to it time and time again, but after all these years and after this last year, it is time to go shopping for a different distribution with real professional management and fewer zealots.
Like it or not, Slackware is a business, yet it is has become painfully obvious no one in authority has the first clue as to how to run a business. As I've said before, if he wanted to take some time off, fine, he certainly has earned it, but it should have been announced and people "officially" appointed to take up the "slack" (pun intended).
Unfortunately, the way it has unfolded has been completely irresponsible and the sum total of the inactivity over the last year, as I've said before, became the "fuel" that sparked the events of a couple of weeks ago.
It was nice to see so many offer to help, but after doing almost nothing for the last year, and therefore, the income dwindling, what did he expect. [RETROACTIVELY MODERATED]
Rant over. Time to move on.

Totoro-kun 04-29-2012 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 4665942)
Like it or not, Slackware is a business, yet it is has become painfully obvious no one in authority has the first clue as to how to run a business. As I've said before, if he wanted to take some time off, fine, he certainly has earned it, but it should have been announced and people "officially" appointed to take up the "slack" (pun intended).
Unfortunately, the way it has unfolded has been completely irresponsible and the sum total of the inactivity over the last year, as I've said before, became the "fuel" that sparked the events of a couple of weeks ago.

Slackware is a private business and one of the biggest perks of private business is that you can run in the way YOU see fit. Slack installed on peoples computers still worked flawlessly no matter if Pat was here or not. Im my opinion this is what counts.
Quote:

It was nice to see so many offer to help, but after doing almost nothing for the last year, and therefore, the income dwindling, what did he expect. [RETROACTIVELY MODERATED]
Rant over. Time to move on.
[RETROACTIVELY MODERATED]I see nothing wrong with inspiring motivation of a man to whom many of us are thankful for this reliable system.

vdemuth 04-29-2012 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 4665942)
,

I first starting using Slackware in 1995.

And yet you have learned next to nothing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 4665942)
,

Rant over. Time to move on.

Please do. I for one am sick and tired of seeing your rather nasty posts. If you think you can do better, then go for it. otherwise please stop knocking Pat and the way he chooses to run his business.

Alkin 04-29-2012 08:48 AM

Quote:

I first starting using Slackware in 1995, ...
I am not sure what is the purpose of your post... you want refund ?!

brianL 04-29-2012 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 4665942)
Rant over. Time to move on.

You've tried the best, now try the rest. Canonical seem to have good business sense, shame about their distro. :)

cwizardone 04-29-2012 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Totoro-kun (Post 4665954)
Slackware is a private business and one of the biggest perks of private business is that you can run in the way YOU see fit....

Well, if running it into the ground is what you want to do.... :rolleyes:


Quote:

Originally Posted by Totoro-kun (Post 4665954)
[RETROACTIVELY MODERATED]I see nothing wrong with inspiring motivation of a man to whom many of us are thankful for this reliable system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdemuth (Post 4665975)
...I for one am sick and tired of seeing your rather nasty posts. If you think you can do better, then go for it. otherwise please stop knocking Pat and the way he chooses to run his business.

Relax. The spaceship will be leaving at midnight. Please sell all your worldly goods and be ready to depart at that time.

dugan 04-29-2012 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianL (Post 4665986)
You've tried the best, now try the rest. Canonical seem to have good business sense, shame about their distro. :)

He wants a distro that's updated more often. Arch would be a better choice.

And cwizardone, I know you're frustrated with the long stretch between updates and with people not agreeing with you, but please, don't be like this:

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 4665942)
Ah, to once again be so young, dumb and plain &*^%)$# stupid.
Do the members of your faction wear funny little hats with tassels and brass doodads to indicate their "rank" within
the sect?

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 4666002)
Relax. The spaceship will be leaving at midnight. Please sell all your worldly goods and be ready to depart at that time.


RagingBull 04-29-2012 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cwizardone (Post 4665942)
Ah, to once again be so young, dumb and plain &*^%)$# stupid.
Do the members of your faction wear funny little hats with tassels and brass doodads to indicate their "rank" within
the sect? :jawa:

I first starting using Slackware in 1995, and have returned to it time and time again, but after all these years and after this last year, it is time to go shopping for a different distribution with real professional management and fewer zealots.
Like it or not, Slackware is a business, yet it is has become painfully obvious no one in authority has the first clue as to how to run a business. As I've said before, if he wanted to take some time off, fine, he certainly has earned it, but it should have been announced and people "officially" appointed to take up the "slack" (pun intended).
Unfortunately, the way it has unfolded has been completely irresponsible and the sum total of the inactivity over the last year, as I've said before, became the "fuel" that sparked the events of a couple of weeks ago.
It was nice to see so many offer to help, but after doing almost nothing for the last year, and therefore, the income dwindling, what did he expect. They should be throwing rocks at the guy, not sending him money for doing nothing. :banghead:
Rant over. Time to move on.

First of all I don't appreciate your extremely rude post even though it wasn't directed at myself. There was nothing posted by any forum member to rate your behavior.

I personally prefer the management tools offered in Slackware over more eye appealing tools offered in other distros. This is one of the reasons that I came back to Slackware. Simplicity = speed and productivity. If you don't like it you don't have to use it, and after all it's not like anyone is making you pay for the software. Last time I checked it's open source, and readily available for download online. Go troll somewhere else, and get a life.


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