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Old 06-07-2021, 07:36 PM   #46
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Actually the 5.10 kernels treated me really well with the hardware I run - much better than the 5.4 kernels did.

I'll be keeping the last couple 5.10 kernels on my system for a bit while I evaluate 5.12.
 
Old 06-07-2021, 08:21 PM   #47
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I think the kernel decision is a good idea. The next LTS is, what, a good seven months away at this point? If Pat isn't entirely pleased with 5.10 and he feels that the new release will be ready before then, this is a very sensible solution to the problem.
 
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Old 06-07-2021, 09:53 PM   #48
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five point ten... another one bites the dust... gone for good... another one bites the dust.
 
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Old 06-07-2021, 09:59 PM   #49
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Big update tonight; 50 packages total. Kernel 5.10 is out, 5.12.9 is in.
 
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Old 06-07-2021, 10:22 PM   #50
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If Pat isn't entirely pleased with 5.10 and he feels that the new release will be ready before then, this is a very sensible solution to the problem.
Sounds like it was based on community feedback, not necessarily Pat having issues:

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but based on comments from the Slackware community it seems like 5.10 LTS isn't getting a lot of love
 
Old 06-07-2021, 10:49 PM   #51
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Big update tonight; 50 packages total. Kernel 5.10 is out, 5.12.9 is in.
Had to update twice. Something about Slackpkg moving from 15.0.3 to 15.0.5. 48 of the original 50 packages had to be updated again, including the 5.12.9 kernel stuff.
 
Old 06-07-2021, 11:09 PM   #52
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Big update tonight; 50 packages total. Kernel 5.10 is out, 5.12.9 is in.
55 updates for 64bit and 59 for 32bit if you count all the hard work and dedication packed into every package. This makes 43,171 updates to -current since 2016.

https://www.linuxgalaxy.org/lcp/Slac...rsion/current/


PV has earned much more than a 4 day break!
 
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Old 06-07-2021, 11:17 PM   #53
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hitest says this on the cusp of every release
Hahahaha, very true. Ye Gods I am predictable. I feel the same rush of enthusiasm and gratitude prior to every release.
 
Old 06-08-2021, 10:46 AM   #54
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Big update tonight; 50 packages total. Kernel 5.10 is out, 5.12.9 is in.
I had nothing but trouble with kernel 5.10.x when it was introduced. Finally, in desperation I gave away my Thinkpad and took possession of an HP laptop. At the very same time I started to use kernel 5.12.x. I have had no problems since that day and I continue to use 5.12.x.
 
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Old 06-08-2021, 10:54 AM   #55
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I have had no problems since that day and I continue to use 5.12.x.
That's my experience as well on my T410 Thinkpad and my Dell 9020 Desktop. All is well.

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Linux odin.darkstar.home 5.12.9 #1 SMP Fri Jun 4 14:56:18 CDT 2021 x86_64 Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4770 CPU @ 3.40GHz GenuineIntel GNU/Linux
 
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Old 06-08-2021, 06:03 PM   #56
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Shortly after it came out, I successfully built gcc 11.1.0...
I did too. I had to, for binary compatibility with my other systems. Because of libstdc++.so.6 GLIBCXX_ symbols (can't link against newer library, and run on old... it's fine in the other direction of course)
 
Old 06-08-2021, 09:58 PM   #57
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I think the kernel decision is a good idea. The next LTS is, what, a good seven months away at this point? If Pat isn't entirely pleased with 5.10 and he feels that the new release will be ready before then, this is a very sensible solution to the problem.
AS Firm Believer of LTS. And many patches go into LTS. After hearing why People should not get locked into a kernel unless it is for industrial proprietary embedded stuff.
Even that he explained the kernel git tree is always based off a stable branch now.
This is to security.
The Biggest pet Pev is. Packagers Such as Pat and hundreds of others keep using newer and newer GLIBC.
That is counter productive to the desktop packager. Number one leading cause of why the linux desktop never made it like Windows or Macosx.
Hence no reverse compatibility between releases desktop distr's.
I remember when Pat told me kernel headers not the issue.
I replied Kernel Headers could careless it is the GLIBC you build it against.
Pat has done a damn good job trying not to leap to far at once.???????
Headers are a big deal and the GLIBC dictates.
I seen he learned that from the kernel team and how he set up the kernel build.

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Old 06-09-2021, 09:45 AM   #58
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The Biggest pet Pev is. Packagers Such as Pat and hundreds of others keep using newer and newer GLIBC.
That is counter productive to the desktop packager. Number one leading cause of why the linux desktop never made it like Windows or Macosx.
This has nothing to do with why Windows and Mac are more prominent than Linux on home computers. Most distros handle the packaging of software and recompile it for each version. GLIBC is only a small part of the pie as many programs link to specific versions of libraries and when those libraries are updated, the program is broken until it is recompiled.

There's only a handful of distros (relatively) that have to actually deal with the problem you mention, but most distros are binary based and some upstream packager handles any rebuilds due to newer GLIBC or other dependencies. They're not going to notice any problems unless they're pulling from a repo not designed for their OS version.
 
Old 06-09-2021, 11:26 AM   #59
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Had to update twice. Something about Slackpkg moving from 15.0.3 to 15.0.5. 48 of the original 50 packages had to be updated again, including the 5.12.9 kernel stuff.
I've seen that before so now I do this when updating this test current install using slackpkg...

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# slackpkg update
# slackpkg upgrade slackpkg
Then allow slackpkg to overwrite the config files, and reset mirror and any blacklist entries...

Code:
# slackpkg update gpg
# slackpkg update
# slackpkg install-new
# slackpkg upgrade-all
#
Previously, when I got caught with the 'slackpkg has been updated' stuff, I just re-ran slackpkg upgrade-all and the previous downloads were cached, did not have to download it all again.
 
  


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