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Old 05-26-2018, 05:22 PM   #61
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I do good things. I don't do good things. What do I do exactly?
If you think you can fix the things I don't do well (why on earth would you compile chromium 3 times a week!): send patches!
Messages like "your stuff does not work" while you still keep on using my stuff are not productive. Send patches! Or stop using my stuff and stop the nagging.
That blob is a night mare. I give it one hour a day and walk off. building it in 14.1 for the old glibc is a night mare. I have to edit headers and code all the time keep a local hub. 66 is killing me.. Relax I hate compiling qt5 in slackware 14.2.

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Old 05-26-2018, 07:07 PM   #62
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Relax I hate compiling qt5 in slackware 14.2.
Toughen up If you need Qt5, either compile it and save the package (in case you need to reinstall), or use a binary package. The rest is gabble gabble talk

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Old 05-26-2018, 07:52 PM   #63
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Most of your stuff is nice far from stable. Chromium you build has never been stable but donated to you for that wonderful scripting.
Well that's odd. Chromium is one of the few programs that I install from binary (alien), and I've had exactly zero crashes.
 
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Old 05-27-2018, 02:19 AM   #64
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Perhaps, the mods need to come up with a "cool down" button for such users...Come back in 72 hours etc...
i miss the "Did you find this post helpful?" No option

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Old 05-27-2018, 02:52 AM   #65
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Glad it worked for you in 14,1 and 14,2 . now go compile stuff with the latest ldconfig. like kdenlive for 14.1 or 14.2.
Do you use a mix of Slackware 14.1, 14.2 and -current on the computers you own?
You can not expect the same experience on these three versions of Slackware. Software stops working or stops being compile-able on older releases.
For instance, I stopped compiling Chromium for anything older than 14.2 because it's too much of a hassle.
Is it not possible for you to upgrade these 14.1 computers to 14.2 and later on to 15.0?
 
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Old 05-27-2018, 06:11 AM   #66
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It is simple: I believe that adding the Qt5 as dependency on SBO is purely madness.

Also, even thinking that someone thought to invite people to build Qt5 into "dirty" systems is laughable.

Looks like some people lives in a fantasy world with dragons, dungeons and 64 cores CPUs.

What I will change? I will remove every little bit of Qt5 from the SBO repositories.
Can you please explain where the Qt5 dependency was added to the Slackware 14.1 qjackctl Slackbuild?
https://slackbuilds.org/slackbuilds/...ctl.SlackBuild

I think the Qt5 dependency was added to qjackctl. I don't understand what the problem is. If people don't want to run the new software that requires Qt5 then they can run the old software that doesn't. qjackctl without the Qt5 dependency is there on Slackbuilds under Slackware 14.0. The Slackbuilds website is very functional and people can find older versions of software that doesn't require Qt5 on it.

Plasma 5 was too young for Slackware 14.2 but hopefully it gets incorporated (at least Qt5) now so everyone can be on the same page for Slackware 15.

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Old 05-27-2018, 06:44 AM   #67
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sure will love that dependency.
One of the first things I tried to compile on my Atom was qt5. I abandoned the compile after an hour [didn't know it would take 2 days] and installed a binary. End of story. Likewise there are other things I won't compile either, Chromium as mentioned, openjdk is another. Binaries are so convenient. You just 'wash and go'.

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i miss the "Did you find this post helpful?" No option
Wish I had one for your post.

But seriously, the point of the 'helpful' button is to rate posters who one can rely on in the community to provide useful information drawing from experience. Some of the better posters are those with a reputation higher than their post count. For those with hardly any, it gives an indication of the kinds of contributions they are making to a community [i.e. selfish versus selfless]. Inevitably the button does turn into a 'Facebook' like button, I think that's unavoidable, but to have a 'dislike' option would turn this place into a version of Reddit.

And Chuang's comment was actually quite useful: he has identified that some posters inhabit this intentional grey area whereby their posts are mischievous but useful so it's not clearcut trolling [but it is still trolling]. I know of posters who have made thousands of posts this way on other fora, but because they can always defend themselves as just having 'a different point of view' they don't get warned or banned.

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Old 05-27-2018, 06:51 AM   #68
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Wish I had one for your post.
we used to have this option, you know
 
Old 05-27-2018, 07:04 AM   #69
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Some of the better posters are those with a reputation higher than their post count. For those with hardly any, it gives an indication of the kinds of contributions they are making to a community [i.e. selfish versus selfless].
In addition to the green boxes that show the amount of reputation, it would be quite interesting to see a reputation ratio too (# of reputation / # of posts).
 
Old 05-27-2018, 07:48 AM   #70
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You really can't read much into the little green boxes. Some people click that "helpful" link for all sorts of silly reasons, and then other times you put a lot of effort into a post that deserves heaps of rep and you get little to no acknowledgement whatsoever.

A ratio >1.0 is completely unrealistic unless you take virtually no part in the social aspects of the forum. You're generally doing well if you get >0.2 with >0.5 being the forum super-stars.

The only reason I don't disable it is that when you do you can no longer see who gave you rep and any comments attached to it. IMO the old pre-rep 'Thanks' button was better.


P.S. I just checked, my ratios are:
0.42 (helpful posts / total posts)
0.46 (rep / total posts)

P.P.S. Many of us long-timers predate the rep system so our ratios will be skewed.

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Old 05-27-2018, 11:07 AM   #71
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a repo that does provide additional packages creates dependencies, interesting :-)

true, compelling over and over again is not funny, especially packages like Qt.
Hurra for SlackOnly!!!! I wish I would find a donate button on the page

btw, for development of Qt, the best option is to download Qt + Creator from qt.io.

an other btw, just exploring brew as package manager to extend a basically totally useless system, very interesting concept and approach
 
Old 05-27-2018, 09:25 PM   #72
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That's funny, I've never had a problem building from SBo as long as I had the dependencies in order and the links for the scripts were still valid. There was a time that foomatic-db-engine had an invalid link, but that was an easy fix with copy/paste. So, not really seeing the problem here.
Slackbuilds is a huge mother. but mom needs to know how to hold her children. learn more stable for one breaks another pango mm stacks it all happens
 
Old 05-27-2018, 09:28 PM   #73
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Do you use a mix of Slackware 14.1, 14.2 and -current on the computers you own?
You can not expect the same experience on these three versions of Slackware. Software stops working or stops being compile-able on older releases.
For instance, I stopped compiling Chromium for anything older than 14.2 because it's too much of a hassle.
Is it not possible for you to upgrade these 14.1 computers to 14.2 and later on to 15.0?
I look at the developer site and come to a conclusion what they are doing. then make a decision if it is in the CHANNEL
https://github.com/qt
no hassle to build chromium 66 slack 14.1 ok it means to take open source and make it work. gtk is the issue new one does not compile in 4.7 so they went 4.9 look we are slack we are base. they change the distro in order to build one program. we change the code to build for the base not a patch it is development that works. relaxed your loved. Slack is the base no less no more the rest are spinning wheels

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Old 05-27-2018, 09:40 PM   #74
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a repo that does provide additional packages creates dependencies, interesting :-)
Huh? Does SBo not provide scripts to create additional packages? Of course there will dependencies for some builds

*edit* I read that as "does not provide additional packages", but now I can't work out why it's "interesting" at all :P

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Old 05-27-2018, 09:56 PM   #75
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Huh? Does SBo not provide scripts to create additional packages? Of course there will dependencies for some builds
first of all there is only one program that looks at links LDD you call dependencies. I spent many years building source DEB"s for a distro.
there is no such fooking thing as dependency. unless your configuring a program. Fookin debs will break more crap than fix do to no one is paid to look at that repo.
it is a security nightmare and renders UBUNTU DEBIAN obsolete. Fact is the first time you take the code away from the user you are a thief in the night.
In the beginning was slack . And he fixed the shit. I was happy. Donate to slackware.
 
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