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Old 12-18-2013, 03:54 AM   #1
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slack current request udev.so.1


Hi,

For the next stable release I would like to request to have udev updated to the latest possible version, with udev.so.1 as library.

There are 2 options for this.

Robby workman's option by extracting udev from systemd (works untill version 197 or something)
1. http://www.slackware.com/~rworkman/s...-from-systemd/

LFS way of extraction on later versions than 197:
2. http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/...er06/udev.html

I am requesting this early as, there are some packages that link against udev.so.0 that will need to be rebuild against udev.so.1
The list of these packages can be found on the directory of rworkman.
 
Old 12-18-2013, 10:16 PM   #2
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The only thing with LFS is, you have to make sure kmod was built with configure trigger "--libdir=/lib \" or the systemd-udev build will fail. The symlink method currently in the SVN book for the kmod libraries does not work, period.

I'm not exactly sure why Patrick chose to remain with udev-182. You might want to ask him. I think udev-182 was one of the last non-systemd included version maybe. I know version 184 was the last stable release of udev-standalone.

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Old 12-19-2013, 12:23 AM   #3
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I think, one of the udev forks will solve that problem. Or udev may share the fate of PAM... ;-)

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Old 12-19-2013, 03:35 AM   #4
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udev-182 is the latest with udev.so.0
 
Old 12-19-2013, 03:35 PM   #5
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Quote:
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I think udev-182 was one of the last non-systemd included version maybe. I know version 184 was the last stable release of udev-standalone.
It may also the last one, that supports separate /usr mounts.

@bartgymnast: Have you tried http://dev.gentoo.org/~blueness/eudev/?

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Old 12-19-2013, 06:15 PM   #6
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Systemd'ixes users said that the systemd supports separated /usr. See http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software...usr-is-broken/. I think that systemd-udev also have support. But in my opinion systemd is very ugly.

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Old 12-19-2013, 08:46 PM   #7
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The extracted systemd-udev doesn't have to have a separate /usr mount thankfully.

Eudev is still work a work-in-progress but it's advanced somewhat since it's conception. The Gentoo guys are still working at it.

I'd be more interested in watching mdev or hotplug2. Mdev has been in development for a while now consistently with BusyBox. I haven't seen too much recently for Hotplug2 but OpenWRT has been using them.

Of course you could always bust out the kmod manual node creation how-tos and nix udev altogether and use the original hotplug scripts (provided they get some updates) with devfs/devtmpfs hard linked device nodes.
 
Old 12-20-2013, 01:25 AM   #8
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guys, I was not asking this for personally use.
I was asking this for inclusing in slackware (current) next release.

I didn't mention the options of eudev and mdev and stated the options according to the actually udev package upgrade.
It is completly up to PV, if he replaces udev, or upgrades etc.
 
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Quote:
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guys, I was not asking this for personally use.
I was asking this for inclusing in slackware (current) next release.
No component in Slackware needs libudev.so.1, only you seem to need it. So it's your personal request.
 
  


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