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Old 04-19-2015, 10:24 PM   #301
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It was 64-bit, but I can't diagnose it anymore, I already installed Mint over it and will install next version Slackware when it comes out.

I mean I installed Alien Bob's multilib, I tried the various skype slackbuilds (in this thread and slackbuilds.org) and the static package and various asoundrc, but nothing made the audio work. Probably, more time spent on it may have finally fixed it, but I draw the line at around 5 hours spent trying to make it work. Installing Mint took less time, so I took the easy way out, but I don't like pulseaudio or skype, so I expect that buying a smartphone will no longer require me to keep Mint around.
Skype was, unfortunately, bought by Microsoft -- and it shows.

Having said that, once one understands that one has to have everything needed for pulseaudio both in 32-bit and 64-bit version, it is not that difficult to get things working.

If I were you, I would not wait until the next version number; rather, you may wish to use the slackware64-current.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 03:49 AM   #302
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metaschima,

I described my struggles with skype here:
Skype on pure Slackware64
Sound in Skype 4.3
Sound in Skype via apulse

you may wish to check it. These were all inspired by LQ discussions and this thread in particular.
 
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Old 04-20-2015, 09:11 AM   #303
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metaschima,

I described my struggles with skype here:
Skype on pure Slackware64
Sound in Skype 4.3
Sound in Skype via apulse

you may wish to check it. These were all inspired by LQ discussions and this thread in particular.
Using a "customized" version of Skype package with a special directory and libraries did not work for me either.

If you install slackware64 13.37 (or 14.1) with multilib, then I will be happy to send you with step-by-step instructions on how to get this working.

Alternatively, you may want to start first with a 32-bit system, figure out how to get Skype and pulseaudio working there, and then use that experience to figure out what to do in the multilib setup (this is what I ended up doing).
 
Old 04-20-2015, 12:18 PM   #304
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This is probably an "off the wall" suggestion to many since there are so many Skype users that would be difficult to get to switch to something platform-blind. But of course that is the problem that Microsoft creates and whether by negligence or design doesn't really matter when all we want is something to do a job and by hook or by crook Microsoft ruins it for anyone not absorbed into the collective. Some may find this useful and since Mac users are progressively finding themselves in the same situation we may no longer be a wee voice in the distance.

There are alternative apps that do the same job and that will run on any OpSys. Two examples of apps and services that can be deployed that do everything that Skype does (perhaps excepting calling a landline number, though iirc some can do that, just not these two as of last check) are TeamSpeak and Mumble. They have a free version but it lacks privacy if that is important to you. Some may be satisfied with obscurity in that nobody really targets such apps for nefarious hacking, partly because one is alerted if anyone not invited logs in.

Perhaps much easier and more complete is Googles Google+ Google Chat. It has all of Skypes features and more and the bandwidth is better. It can reportedly handle up to 100 in a conference call and that's just the free version. I haven't found a need for anything more complex/complete than the free version so far.

Any of you readers who might nay-say out of distrust for Google might ask yourself why you would trust Microsoft more before you reply. Bottom line is that communication with the outside world is a vulnerability and we all must judge for ourselves the cost-risk/benefit factors and decide accordingly.

The main thrust of my post isn't to say hop on board any of the three listed but to be encouraged to search for alternatives. Nature abhors a vacuum and M$ creates a lot of such things that suck.

Aside - it just popped into my head that I don't know enough about text/speech conversion or encryption to wonder more deeply how such things might be applied to internet comm apps.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 12:26 PM   #305
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There are alternative apps that do the same job and that will run on any OpSys. Two examples of apps and services that can be deployed that do everything that Skype does (perhaps excepting calling a landline number, though iirc some can do that, just not these two as of last check) are TeamSpeak and Mumble. They have a free version but it lacks privacy if that is important to you.
Calling landlines and receiving calls from a number associated with a real phone number is important, unfortunately.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 12:38 PM   #306
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For people that mainly use Skype for chatting, SkypeWeb exists:

https://github.com/EionRobb/skype4pi...aster/skypeweb

I use it all the time and only start up the main client whenever I need to make a call.
 
Old 04-20-2015, 12:38 PM   #307
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The main thrust of my post isn't to say hop on board any of the three listed but to be encouraged to search for alternatives. Nature abhors a vacuum and M$ creates a lot of such things that suck.
The thing that you seem to forget is that it is pretty hard to get a non-tech community to switch to another program if it works well enough for them. In other words if colleagues or friends of the user use Skype you simply have pretty little choice in the matter, ie Skype has to be available on those machines.
 
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Old 04-29-2015, 11:07 PM   #308
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So I installed Slackware 14.1, installed the static apulse build, but I can't get the microphone to work. I've tried some '.asoundrc' files, and the APULSE_CAPTURE_DEVICE="hw:3,0" skype.

I prefer an all-in-one package because I don't want to install hundreds of dependencies for this POS.
 
Old 04-30-2015, 12:47 AM   #309
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Try APULSE_CAPTURE_DEVICE=plughw:3,0

I had to do that for my USB soundcard, although I don't know the difference between using "plug" or not.
 
Old 04-30-2015, 12:29 PM   #310
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I got it working ! It was actually something simple, I forgot to unmute the mic AND enable capture.

Thanks to zerouno for the skype static package, it works great and you saved me from having to use Mint, yuk !
 
Old 05-06-2015, 10:00 PM   #311
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OK, I'm feeling a little stupid - I'm running Slackware 14.1 64 Bit - has anyone found a simple solution to running Skype on a clean 64 Bit Slackware without installing Pulseaudio? I tried the all-in-one package, everything worked but the mic, tried the APULSE_CAPTURE_DEVICE="hw:3,0 command before starting Skype, the mic still didn't work.

I've read thru this thread a few times, and I'm struggling to determine what the newest / latest information on this topic is : )

Thanks for any assistance / direction.
 
Old 05-06-2015, 11:55 PM   #312
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I've read thru this thread a few times, and I'm struggling to determine what the newest / latest information on this topic is : )
Nothing that hasn't already posted AFAIK.
 
Old 05-07-2015, 02:13 AM   #313
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I have been using pulse audio since 2008 in slackware GSB. just learn it. the last two years it has becaome stable. Learn the program. It can be another tool.
I put a build out with a lot of help notes for multi lib stuff. The truth is if your going pulse audio for skype go the whole 9 yards and do it vanilla like the program wants. If you have a issue with pulse audio and the team that develops it do not use the tool. I have it running great from slackware 13.00 to current kde5.
issue is just learning. Skype requires the libpulse to build that does not mean it is a VOIP. This again leaves me very sad at the minimal installs from Slackbuild.
Look at Kdenlive. thats a ridiculous Slackbuild. there is over 25 extra separate programs to actually make that thing do what the developers wanted. yes they are all in slackbuild. same skype. Oh well. Thats Slack. Not the Slackware way when you build it you build it all.
 
Old 05-07-2015, 03:26 AM   #314
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I put a build out with a lot of help notes for multi lib stuff. The truth is if your going pulse audio for skype go the whole 9 yards and do it vanilla like the program wants.
Your set of packages and buildscript is without doubt very useful for many people. But as far as I can tell it is a script that helps installing a set of pre-build SBo packages on 14.1 multilib as well as adding config files. Not sure this is something I would want to add to systems without some form of understanding how to configure Pulseaudio in picking up the right mike, etc.

The bottomline here is that for me the key problem with PulseAudio on Slackware that there is very little guidance on how to get it running. I simply need Skype on machines I support and Skype audio needs to work, nothing more. And like many fixing audio problems on Skype drives me up the wall...

Note that throughout this topic there have been repeated requests for documentation explaining how to get PulseAudio to work on Slackware, see for example http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post5217998 If you have been using it for so long it might be worth adding something on slackwiki that has no info on pulseaudio.
 
Old 05-07-2015, 08:57 AM   #315
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When I was playing with different sound systems, I remember that it was actually difficult to not use PulseAudio. It just keeps spawning (unless you define `autospawn=no` in its config) and stealing ALSA exclusively. I had to google how to stop that behaviour.

So isn't switching to PulseAudio just a matter of installing it and, maybe, running system-wise? And also recompiling alsa-plugins, some applications that have PA support, but it's just not compiled; and writing a simple asound.conf. But these topics have been covered numerous times over years, so it's almost trivial.

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the last two years it has becaome stable
I dunno. I tried the newest elementaryOS the other day and PA crashed on me within an hour. I removed it - the sound magically starts working. Do you really need to learn tweaking another abstraction layer, when the sound works perfectly without it?
 
  


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