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markush 11-27-2012 05:34 PM

Hopefully it helps to use the ESR versions. I've dropped using Firefox more than a year ago and now I'm searching for a replacement for Thunderbird.

Markus

sycamorex 11-28-2012 04:04 AM

I also believe that /extra is a good place for them.

Didier Spaier 11-28-2012 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by sycamorex (Post 4838608)
I also believe that /extra is a good place for them.

Or maybe /pasture?

Though there could be an update during a Slackware version's life, which usually doesn't happen there IIRC.

Not sure what is Pat's policy about that.

Eternal_Newbie 11-28-2012 09:33 AM

I am personally in favour of Slackware using the ESR versions of Firefox and TBird, or at least including slackbuilds for them in /extra. One of the reasons I use Opera as my main browser is Firefox's annoying release schedule.

rizitis 11-28-2012 02:37 PM

I am using opera too because of speed deal.
I vote yes.

bobzilla 11-28-2012 06:08 PM

I accidentally voted "yes", but than I saw Nicki's not asking about SBo but the release. I'm fine with the newest FF versions. But I would like for ESR versions to also be available in some way. Be it /extra or SBo.

bobzilla 11-28-2012 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by bobzilla (Post 4839108)
But I would like.

I don't know how that sounds in english, I'm not a native english speaker. I wanted to say I would be glad/happy if it happens in some way, I don't demand anything. :)

chrisretusn 11-28-2012 07:11 PM

I voted no. I prefer Firefox over Firefox ESR.

Cara25 12-01-2012 11:39 AM

Seamonkey ?
 
Just out of curiosity I installed Seamonkey because I needed a second browser option for my Salix machine. My Firefox install has all the cookies installed from my financial institutions but I have been overcome with all the Firefox updates and the time Firefox takes to load completely. Seamonkey loads a lot faster and it is a comfortable change from Firefox. Chromium is too big of a deviation for me.

NyteOwl 12-01-2012 04:54 PM

Since one of Slackware's strong points is stability, I'd rather see ESR as the regular included release FF and the hell-for-leather version (aka the "regular" version") in /extra or on SBo.

hitest 12-01-2012 05:12 PM

I'm happy with the software set that is included with Slackware. :)

rg3 12-02-2012 02:30 AM

I'm happy with what's included now. Moreover, I was experiencing crashes with Flash and they were fixed with the latest release. Despite this particular problem, my point is that Firefox in general has been very stable to me and receives security updates properly as problems are discovered, but when something non-security related fails, you want to be running the latest version or you won't get a fix.

foodown 12-03-2012 11:07 AM

Since almost anyone who knows enough to care about which version is included has the ability to change to/from either version(s), I don't think that it matters all that much which one comes with the distribution.

I do think that including the ESR versions in /extra would be needlessly confusing (to a small few) and an overall waste of time.

In my opinion (and I'd say in fact as well), the decision to include the versions of software that get included in the base distribution is one that belongs with the Benevolent Dictator for Life, and we have a particularly good one over Slackware; I'm sure that he has his reasons for things being the way that they are, and that's good enough for me. He certainly makes it easy enough for anyone to change things however they like.

H_TeXMeX_H 12-03-2012 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by foodown (Post 4841840)
In my opinion (and I'd say in fact as well), the decision to include the versions of software that get included in the base distribution is one that belongs with the Benevolent Dictator for Life, and we have a particularly good one over Slackware; I'm sure that he has his reasons for things being the way that they are, and that's good enough for me. He certainly makes it easy enough for anyone to change things however they like.

Well, of course it is Pat V.'s decision, nobody ever questioned that. It's just a poll to see if people would find it helpful, and Pat V. will decide for himself what to do.

I know that Slackware is ruled by a BDFL, but that doesn't mean that the BDFL doesn't care about our opinions too :) ... he's "Benevolent" after all.

It doesn't matter much tho which version is chosen. I do prefer ESR because it breaks less often ... because it is updated less often ... only for security updates. I would say that this goes perfectly with the Slackware philosophy in my honest opinion. I leave it at that.

FeyFre 12-03-2012 02:10 PM

In order to ease discussion:
Quote:

Should future releases of Slackware include any versions of Firefox and Thunderbird at all?
I would be happy to vote here "No".


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