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Due to personal constraints, I don't think I have the time to go back to recompiling the world so I will probably not go back to Slackware but I'm just curious. I guess this is the best sub-forum to ask, in Debian I already know the answers I would get. |
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Technically there is nothing that I dislike about Debian, it has a robust package-management system and is secure by default. This suits me very well as I am a security/stability junky and love Slack, Debian, and FreeBSD. I guess the one draw back for me about Debian is that the distro is very slow to adopt newer software(a philosophical choice). I do realize that I can get a lot of the newer stuff in Sid, but I'm not willing to give up stability to get newer, secure software. For example, on my old Lenny box (that I formatted yesterday) Fire Fox was at version 2.0.0.8 and Thunderbird was at 1.5x. I prefer to run a newer, more secure browser and e-mail client; Slackware recently released FF 2.0.0.11 and offers Thunderbird 2.0.0.9(in security updates). My intention is not to offend my friends in the Debian forum as Debian is a first rate distro and I continue to avidly use it. I always come home though to Slackware as my first choice for my favourite *nix. I'm running two fully-patched Slackware 12.0 boxes at home:-) |
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I do use stop gap measures to counter my not updating anything. It's not like I'm completely oblivious to sane security practices. Believe it or not, I along with 3 others, manage over 300 computers at the Human Ecology Dept of OSU. Mixed Win/Mac environment. That probably has a bearing on why I choose not to do it at home. I have too many things to do when I get home besides continuing to work. Quote:
I'm certainly not suggesting anyone run as root all the time or even implying that it would probably be ok just because of my expierence with doing it. This computer is nothing but a development box and it doesn't make alot of sense for me to be constantly using sudo/su all the time. I am a bigger threat to my system than anyone else is by running as root. Statistically speaking, that's fact. |
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Only stupid people never change their mind. It's been since several days I wanted to posted this question, too bad I choose you ;) Quote:
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A package can not enter directly in testing. It needs at least 10 days (unless it's priority high==security).. Because newer things are considered untested (from a debian point of view) and then unstable by default. Debian state does not rely on the upstream state: a stable upstream will start unstable in debian. Also packages which do not work on 11 architectures will not go to testing. Annoying for me (in this only case, I grab it from Unstable), good for people running Dinosaurs.. FF 2.0.0.11 entered mmmhh yesterday :) Quote:
I don't want to hijack the thread and get stabbed by slackers, I go back to my cave :D ++ |
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Like these crazy gentooists :) |
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Cheers, Tink |
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At least I'm using a free software ;) :D :D Actually it was accepted in unstable on the 2nd but it was packaged on the 1st :) |
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Good talking to you, man:-) |
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later, hitest:) |
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As many Slackers do, I do compile quite a lot of my own software, but I almost never compile anything that is available as an official package. Plus, if I need to setup another machine I just use the packages I have already made; I don't recompile (the world) them again. This is definitely more selective and intelligent than recompiling half (or even a whole) system just for a few new packages (and their supposed missing/outdated/"too new" dependencies). |
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10.2 was released in 2005. Cheers, Tink |
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@ nx5000 I think you're incorrectly grouping Slackware with Gentoo ... no, no, they are very different, and I can see that you have never tried either one (or maybe only Gentoo, but I doubt it). Besides, how can you learn without doing ? If all you know is apt-get, what do you do when a package isn't in the repo ? You don't use it ? What about when there's something wrong with the kernel on a particular machine, what do you do ? Do you try to compile your own ? Can you ? Would you ? * readies machete 1d12 * |
Wow so many replies! Were you bored among slackers or what? :)
Sorry Vrajgh.. I won't surrender. On the 1st of december debian packaged iceweasel for sparc powerpc mipsel ia64 hppa i386 amd64 alpha 8 points :) Quote:
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And no, as I said, the first linux distribution that crossed my PC was the first one I got as a CD, ~10 years ago. It was the jungle on my PC :) At the time I was using rpms and sometimes recompiling. Quote:
We've got the biggest.. ...repository :) Quote:
My video driver lacks one byte of c code that is not integrated in testing and without this byte, kernel lockup sometimes. So this is currently my only recompiled stuff that I use everyday. Quote:
Yes I can but I compile it the debian way :) I'm not really in IT so I don't have much experience with a lot of hardware. But I do have my own kernel, which is at the minimum 0.001% faster than the default one. At least, it's smaller. At least I can say that the welcome is good in slackware forum. Thanks for the replies! |
Well, as the OP I ought to jump into the discussion and thank everyone for the replies that were directly relevant to me and for everyone else on their asides. It's always interesting to see where discussions lead and what different people think! :) I
As for me, when I get around to it I'll have a play with Slackware. My system isn't actually broken at the moment so it might take me a while to build up the motivation! The posts on this thread have given me some idea of what I'll need to do post install and I'm in the process of looking through my configs to find any obscure tweaks in my current config that I might have to copy in the next install. I'll probably continue the wanderings from distro to distro that everyone does. Oddly though, I tend to stick with the same distro for at least a year before moving on. I read a lot of newbie threads about people who've tried out half a dozen within the first month or two. That sounds too much like hard work for me! |
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