Salckware or kde 3.5, is it really so SENSITIVE???

RaptorX · 07-10-2009, 10:00 AM

hi hi!

I was just wondering if it is just me or slackware is kind of sensitive??
or is it kde... I dont get it...

examples:

I open konqueror, and go to any folder, drag and drop it to the desktop and try to link it, what happens is that it tries to make a file called "media:/[some random data here]" which crashes my desktop... only way to fix it is to go console and delete the file...

another one is, I wanted to share some documents with my XP machine, i made a file called /etc/smb.conf, opened control center, went to samba and configured everything up. it didnt work, so i read a little bit and found out that i had to create a file in /etc/samba/smb.conf....

I went deleted /etc/smb.conf and created everything as it should but when i go to control center > samba, it simply crashes....

reinstalling samba and kde dont fix anything...

i keep getting this:

Code:

[KCrash handler]
#5  0xb750e4b7 in QGDict::hashKeyString ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#6  0xb750f4d9 in QGDict::look_string ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#7  0xb4f8ee5d in SambaShare::getValue ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#8  0xb4f8f0d6 in SambaShare::getGlobalValue ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#9  0xb4f8f99b in SambaShare::setValue ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#10 0xb4f87055 in SambaFile::openFile ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#11 0xb4f874a7 in SambaFile::load () from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#12 0xb4f30a26 in KcmSambaConf::load () from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#13 0xb4f3209d in KcmSambaConf::slotSpecifySmbConf ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#14 0xb4f323bc in KcmSambaConf::KcmSambaConf ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#15 0xb4f3246d in create_KcmSambaConf ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#16 0xb53815b2 in KCModuleLoader::load () from /usr/lib/libkutils.so.1
#17 0xb53821bd in KCModuleLoader::loadModule () from /usr/lib/libkutils.so.1
#18 0xb53827e2 in KCModuleLoader::loadModule () from /usr/lib/libkutils.so.1
#19 0xb590ae74 in ConfigModule::module () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#20 0xb58ff8e6 in ModuleWidget::load () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#21 0xb5900414 in DockContainer::loadModule ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#22 0xb5900698 in DockContainer::dockModule ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#23 0xb58f96e8 in TopLevel::activateModule ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#24 0xb58f9fdd in TopLevel::qt_invoke () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#25 0xb7268a7d in QObject::activate_signal ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#26 0xb58fdcae in IndexWidget::moduleActivated ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#27 0xb58fdd11 in IndexWidget::moduleSelected ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#28 0xb58fdec0 in IndexWidget::qt_invoke ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#29 0xb7268a7d in QObject::activate_signal ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#30 0xb59074de in ModuleIconView::moduleSelected ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#31 0xb590867c in ModuleIconView::slotItemSelected ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#32 0xb59087bc in ModuleIconView::qt_invoke ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#33 0xb7268a7d in QObject::activate_signal ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#34 0xb7587e11 in QListView::clicked ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#35 0xb734a3fd in QListView::contentsMouseReleaseEventEx ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#36 0xb734a5e4 in QListView::contentsMouseReleaseEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#37 0xb7b32aa6 in KListView::contentsMouseReleaseEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4
#38 0xb737a4d1 in QScrollView::viewportMouseReleaseEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#39 0xb737772d in QScrollView::eventFilter ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#40 0xb7346d26 in QListView::eventFilter ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#41 0xb726829c in QObject::activate_filters ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#42 0xb726830b in QObject::event () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#43 0xb729f4ac in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#44 0xb720b15a in QApplication::internalNotify ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#45 0xb720be7a in QApplication::notify ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#46 0xb7837672 in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#47 0xb71ad2b1 in QETWidget::translateMouseEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#48 0xb71abc23 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#49 0xb71bc25d in QEventLoop::processEvents ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#50 0xb7221720 in QEventLoop::enterLoop ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#51 0xb72215b6 in QEventLoop::exec ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#52 0xb720abbf in QApplication::exec ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#53 0xb58f8a72 in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#54 0xb772e6e4 in kdeinitmain () from /usr/lib/kde3/kcontrol.so
#55 0x0804eb00 in ?? ()
#56 0x00000007 in ?? ()
#57 0x0808ffb8 in ?? ()
#58 0x00000001 in ?? ()
#59 0x00000000 in ?? ()

So again... is it just me or simple operations can crash KDE....or is it slackware in general... ??

Am i becoming one of those that everything they touch go to hell??

Linux.tar.gz · 07-10-2009, 10:22 AM

Definitely not Slackware because it's by far the most stable GNU/Linux around.
I recommend you not to use KDE to manage your system's configuration. Use a text editor :^). Faster and cleaner.
For samba, you can use a tool named swat. Look around this forum and you'll find some nice tutorials.

RaptorX · 07-10-2009, 10:35 AM

I was thinking the same, it cant be slackware but i was not sure...

about using text editor, vi is my preferred editor but there is two issues...

1) im kind of new to linux so configuring by directly editing stuff is sometimes little bit more complicated than using gui interface...

2) i dont know much of the configuration syntax of a lot of things that i need to config and sometimes i just need to quickly setup something temporal, i cannot take my time to read the manual (which i love to do in other cases) like setting up a quick share to pass some documents to my wifes computer... that is an example of something that I can take my time to configure it better later on but i needed it working at that moment...

another annoying thing is the Konsole program in KDE and vi... using the backspace and [delete] buttons dont work... i have no idea what is Konsole mapping to those buttons but i cannot use vi the normal way i do in a Terminal and it is sometimes annoying to switch to another terminal to edit a file when i can just open Konsole...I am starting to have some issues with KDE...

but in slax i dont have the same issues... i dont know what is it.

GazL · 07-10-2009, 11:17 AM

Now you know why so many of us prefer the lighter window managers like WindowMaker or Fluxbox. The KDE guys provide a lot of integrated system admin tools in the KDE control center. Unfortunately, most of them are complete pants!

Linux.tar.gz is quite right. Use the propper admin tools to configure things rather than some half-baked bolt on gui and you'll be much happier.

hitest · 07-10-2009, 11:47 AM

If you're having issues with vi maybe give nano a try. nano is a simpler command line text editor.

RaptorX · 07-10-2009, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hitest

If you're having issues with vi maybe give nano a try. nano is a simpler command line text editor.

I was a nano user, I love it for its simplicity but after reading about vi and giving it a try i have found that it has a lot of functions that nano wont simply have.

I dont have any problem with vi, but with the Konsole... it doesnt pass all my keystrokes to vi, and there are a bunch of commands that wont simply work under KDE's konsole... i have to Ctrl+Alt+F1, log in, and THEN use vi which is annoying.

RaptorX · 07-10-2009, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GazL

Now you know why so many of us prefer the lighter window managers like WindowMaker or Fluxbox.

I like how KDE looks, but thats it... xDD
may be I really have to switch.

GazL · 07-10-2009, 11:58 AM

if you can't get konsole to work the way you want by playing with its settings, then 'xterm' ought to work fine. You really shouldn't need to return to the virtual console.

Perceptor · 07-10-2009, 01:35 PM

Give yakuake a try, it's a great konsole replacement.

Karu · 07-10-2009, 01:54 PM

The vi thing is definitely not a KDE's fault. It is vi's configuration.
Cannot help with that. But I am a vim user and can recommend it - same and more power and easier to use.
By the way vi in Slackware is link to elvis.

RaptorX · 07-10-2009, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karu

The vi thing is definitely not a KDE's fault. It is vi's configuration.
Cannot help with that. But I am a vim user and can recommend it - same and more power and easier to use.
By the way vi in Slackware is link to elvis.

it is true, it links to elvis... but as far as I know it is supposed to be a "clone" of vi.

but when i am out of KDE vi works perfectly... Also i dont think is KDE but rather Konsole which has the buttons Home, End, Delete, Backspace, mapped somewhere and dont pass them to vi...

now can you explain me why trying to link to some folder or file I get a crash in KDE?

I get so much weird stuff with the gui that i spend most of my time in terminal mode.

rob.rice · 07-10-2009, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RaptorX

hi hi!

I was just wondering if it is just me or slackware is kind of sensitive??
or is it kde... I dont get it...

examples:

I open konqueror, and go to any folder, drag and drop it to the desktop and try to link it, what happens is that it tries to make a file called "media:/[some random data here]" which crashes my desktop... only way to fix it is to go console and delete the file...

another one is, I wanted to share some documents with my XP machine, i made a file called /etc/smb.conf, opened control center, went to samba and configured everything up. it didnt work, so i read a little bit and found out that i had to create a file in /etc/samba/smb.conf....

I went deleted /etc/smb.conf and created everything as it should but when i go to control center > samba, it simply crashes....

reinstalling samba and kde dont fix anything...

i keep getting this:

Code:

[KCrash handler]
#5  0xb750e4b7 in QGDict::hashKeyString ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#6  0xb750f4d9 in QGDict::look_string ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#7  0xb4f8ee5d in SambaShare::getValue ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#8  0xb4f8f0d6 in SambaShare::getGlobalValue ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#9  0xb4f8f99b in SambaShare::setValue ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#10 0xb4f87055 in SambaFile::openFile ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#11 0xb4f874a7 in SambaFile::load () from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#12 0xb4f30a26 in KcmSambaConf::load () from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#13 0xb4f3209d in KcmSambaConf::slotSpecifySmbConf ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#14 0xb4f323bc in KcmSambaConf::KcmSambaConf ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#15 0xb4f3246d in create_KcmSambaConf ()
   from /usr/lib/kde3/kcm_kcmsambaconf.so
#16 0xb53815b2 in KCModuleLoader::load () from /usr/lib/libkutils.so.1
#17 0xb53821bd in KCModuleLoader::loadModule () from /usr/lib/libkutils.so.1
#18 0xb53827e2 in KCModuleLoader::loadModule () from /usr/lib/libkutils.so.1
#19 0xb590ae74 in ConfigModule::module () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#20 0xb58ff8e6 in ModuleWidget::load () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#21 0xb5900414 in DockContainer::loadModule ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#22 0xb5900698 in DockContainer::dockModule ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#23 0xb58f96e8 in TopLevel::activateModule ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#24 0xb58f9fdd in TopLevel::qt_invoke () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#25 0xb7268a7d in QObject::activate_signal ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#26 0xb58fdcae in IndexWidget::moduleActivated ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#27 0xb58fdd11 in IndexWidget::moduleSelected ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#28 0xb58fdec0 in IndexWidget::qt_invoke ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#29 0xb7268a7d in QObject::activate_signal ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#30 0xb59074de in ModuleIconView::moduleSelected ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#31 0xb590867c in ModuleIconView::slotItemSelected ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#32 0xb59087bc in ModuleIconView::qt_invoke ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#33 0xb7268a7d in QObject::activate_signal ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#34 0xb7587e11 in QListView::clicked ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#35 0xb734a3fd in QListView::contentsMouseReleaseEventEx ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#36 0xb734a5e4 in QListView::contentsMouseReleaseEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#37 0xb7b32aa6 in KListView::contentsMouseReleaseEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/libkdeui.so.4
#38 0xb737a4d1 in QScrollView::viewportMouseReleaseEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#39 0xb737772d in QScrollView::eventFilter ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#40 0xb7346d26 in QListView::eventFilter ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#41 0xb726829c in QObject::activate_filters ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#42 0xb726830b in QObject::event () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#43 0xb729f4ac in QWidget::event () from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#44 0xb720b15a in QApplication::internalNotify ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#45 0xb720be7a in QApplication::notify ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#46 0xb7837672 in KApplication::notify () from /usr/lib/libkdecore.so.4
#47 0xb71ad2b1 in QETWidget::translateMouseEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#48 0xb71abc23 in QApplication::x11ProcessEvent ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#49 0xb71bc25d in QEventLoop::processEvents ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#50 0xb7221720 in QEventLoop::enterLoop ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#51 0xb72215b6 in QEventLoop::exec ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#52 0xb720abbf in QApplication::exec ()
   from /usr/lib/qt-3.3.8b/lib/libqt-mt.so.3
#53 0xb58f8a72 in kdemain () from /usr/lib/libkdeinit_kcontrol.so
#54 0xb772e6e4 in kdeinitmain () from /usr/lib/kde3/kcontrol.so
#55 0x0804eb00 in ?? ()
#56 0x00000007 in ?? ()
#57 0x0808ffb8 in ?? ()
#58 0x00000001 in ?? ()
#59 0x00000000 in ?? ()

So again... is it just me or simple operations can crash KDE....or is it slackware in general... ??

Am i becoming one of those that everything they touch go to hell??

no there was the biggest fuck up anybody connected with slackware has ever made they included a pre alpha software package called kde4
KDE4 is about at least 3 maybe 5 years from being beta and at least 6 years before it should have been included in slackware

NEVER HAVE I SEEN SUCH A FUCKED UP PEACE OF CRAPWARE INCLUDED IN SLACKWARE

hitest · 07-10-2009, 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rob.rice

no there was the biggest fuck up anybody connected with slackware has ever made they included a pre alpha software package called kde4
KDE4 is about at least 3 maybe 5 years from being beta and at least 6 years before it should have been included in slackware

NEVER HAVE I SEEN SUCH A FUCKED UP PEACE OF CRAPWARE INCLUDED IN SLACKWARE

You're exaggerating. I'm running KDE 4.2.2 in FreeBSD and it isn't perfect, but, it works quite well.
So, don't use KDE 4.2.4, stick with Slack 12.2, or run XFce in Slackware 13.0. Linux is all about choice. Use what you whatever environment you want. Your rant is a bit over the top.

mRgOBLIN · 07-10-2009, 05:19 PM

@rob.rice
Might I suggest decaf?

unSpawn · 07-10-2009, 05:40 PM

@rob.rice: expressing yourself in that way can not be tolerated here on LQ. Do not do that again.