Fully implementing this might be the only thing that would make me switch to one of the *BSDs. I really don't have much interest in a system that's that complex. I originally thought Canonical had a better chance of permanently burying Linux, but I think I was wrong.

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Thanks for standing up to this. I too find comments like that shocking and offensive.

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I think if Lennart hadn't have wore out his welcome with his attitude, he might have been more acceptible by the community. His actions have spoken very loudly, so who can honestly place blame on anyone wishing badly of him? I think if he'd be more humble about his presentations and less about making other people feel stupid, belittled, and berated by him, he'd probably get less flack.

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if Lennart would not be employed by Red Hat it would be pretty irrelevant what he is saying.
and if not he would do it, someone else would do the job and the result would be the same

Linux is big businesses, a lot of people wanted this, and now crying that this has consequences through those companies making millions with Linux is ridiculous

crying around in forums does not help, if someone want to change something, start projects, bring solutions and sell them.

if you are not able to do this, like I for example, you have to live with software solutions and distributions other develop for you, sad but true.

but it is a good moment to do something, super computers and embedded devices are changing the world, so if you are able to target this facts and come up with something better or more clever than existing solutions, chances that you find a sponsor are not that bad

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At least 3 people in this thread should be given a time out by the moderators. Lennart wasn't wrong when he vented out that he is actually getting death threats. Sad show indeed.

Regards.

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The problem Lennart faces was brought on by him, himself. If he wants less flack, he needs to learn to be less inclined to megalomania, narcissism, brashness, arrogancy, and approach others with more humanness and humble. You're right in that death threats are unwarranted, but the problem he faces was his own doing. He has every right to vent on it, but if he wants to curb it, the first thing he must fix is his own attitude towards others. Lennart has to fix himself to reduce what he brought onto himself.

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Nothing he has done warrants wishing him death. Period. The crap being spewed here is more vitriolic than anything I've ever seen from him.

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Reading this thread, motes and beams spring to mind.

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I certainly would not like anyone to attack me personally this way, especially someone that I've not even ever met and in a media I don't see, so I don't have a chance to respond.

In short: that is not fair.

Now I will state my own opinion about Lennart Poettering, only based on what I have read as I've never met him either.

He is most probably a good coder, and certainly a good project leader.

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Yes.
And if someone not emplyed by RH would be saying this it would be pretty irrelevant also; perhaps he would be even welcomed to create any distro he desires.
This issue only shows how much of the linux world is dependent on Red Hat -- that no one else is able to come up with a serious, non-obscure alternative: that Linux became LennartOS a long time ago.

You've became so unbelievably ridiculous lately.

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Is it fair to others how Lennart treats or acts towards them either, equally? You really have to look at this from an odd-angle point of view, if you can accurately define that.

Lennart treats others the way he does, but then wants people to lighten up for them treating him back with equivalency? How is treating a person who is unwilling to show respectfulness towards others with respect, yet demands respect and still refuses to show respect, fair to all parties involved?

Didier if someone, anyone for instance, repeatedly and repeatedly bashed on you, made claims against you that were hurtful, belittling, or outright rude and obnoxious to you any chance given, and demanded your respect yet showed you none, would you say it was fair to you to have to treat that same person with respect when you were constantly disrespected but in public and private, even to the point of humiliation?

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If he did that to you of course that was not fair either. Could you provide sources on what he wrote about you personally on a public media, please?

not to sound like i think its ok to give out death threats
but have you read the death threat he got ?


and to think this thread started out funny and educational..

I'm not saying anyone in general, I just asked if it was fair, yes or no.

What did it say genss?

Me, for one. I don't like the guy. I've not liked him ever since I saw him ruin Wolfgang Draxinger's talk at 27C3, but the comments in this thread are indefensible and playing the "who can blame us" card just ain't gonna fly!

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