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Old 10-30-2020, 03:53 PM   #5806
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You know I warned about this 10 days ago now? I even added it to SBo to show as an example...

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6176199
Pat doesn't have restrictions preventing SlackBuilds from downloading during compilation like SBo does. It might've been something he didn't care about during the time. Or it might've been something he missed.

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Why are all my fixes being ignored?
There are many posts on here everyday and Pat may not be on the forum every day or if he is, he may not see all the posts. Or he may see something and think, "Oh, that's a good idea" and then he forgets to make the change.

Since Slackware doesn't have a formal (and public) bug tracking system, it is impossible to know if bug reports on here are seen unless Pat directly comments about it (either on the forum or via the changelog).
 
Old 10-31-2020, 02:13 AM   #5807
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QT6 are inminent . some beta released ...can wait for plasma 6 >)
Me too!

However, did you really believe that Slackware almost managed to skip the entire release cycle of Plasma5 ?

After all, the KDE roadmaps talks about only 4 (four) more minor releases of Plasma5: 5.21, 5.22, 5.23 and 5.24 .

And did you know how many Plasma5 micro releases was skipped already? At least ONE HUNDRED.

I beg our BDFL to take note that we aren't legendary High Elves, with a life span of 1000 years, BUT certainly we are some puny Humans, many do not expecting to survive more than of next 20 years at best.

We can humble ask him "when is ready" to happens BEFORE us going to afterlife, after a well fulfilled lifespan?

Or, maybe this is The Plan? HE waits us to die of old age before Slackware 15 to be released, IF ever will be released?

In fact, there are any real plans for Slackware 15 to be EVER released?

IF NOT, please inform us, we aren't certainly a bunch of children and certainly we can take sober any news.

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Old 10-31-2020, 03:09 AM   #5808
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@LuckyCyborg: as stated here, this forum is "Where newbies come from help". This post doesn't help anyone.

Last edited by Didier Spaier; 10-31-2020 at 03:32 AM. Reason: Cgane' the wording.
 
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Old 10-31-2020, 05:59 AM   #5809
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@LuckyCyborg: as stated here, this forum is "Where newbies come from help". This post doesn't help anyone.

I took it as a playful jab at our BDFL, so I wasn't offended or resentful at LuckyCyborg. I found it mildly amusing and was about to just move on, but then I was thinking about all the useless posts I see daily.

For example, someone posts a problem after an update/upgrade, then another pops up with "well, it is working fine here!". Now the OP is left wondering what the hell is wrong with their skills? Terabytes of data could be saved if these types of posts could be eliminated. Absolutely no one is helped by the fact you aren't having a problem.

Did I say I found that post mildly amusing???
 
Old 10-31-2020, 07:25 AM   #5810
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I took it as a playful jab at our BDFL, so I wasn't offended or resentful at LuckyCyborg. I found it mildly amusing and was about to just move on, but then I was thinking about all the useless posts I see daily.

For example, someone posts a problem after an update/upgrade, then another pops up with "well, it is working fine here!". Now the OP is left wondering what the hell is wrong with their skills? Terabytes of data could be saved if these types of posts could be eliminated. Absolutely no one is helped by the fact you aren't having a problem.

Did I say I found that post mildly amusing???
Maybe people who want to use current should be reminded more often to read the ChangeLog
 
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Old 10-31-2020, 09:09 AM   #5811
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Maybe people who want to use current should be reminded more often to read the ChangeLog
If someone uses Slackware-current he must read ChangeLog every day!
 
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Old 10-31-2020, 10:10 AM   #5812
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.....someone posts a problem after an update/upgrade, then another pops up with "well, it is working fine here!". Now the OP is left wondering what the hell is wrong with their skills? ......
As they should!
Did they read the most recent change log or miss a line in the change log? Did they search this forum for a answer? Did they search the Internet for an answer, etc., etc., etc.

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Old 10-31-2020, 10:18 AM   #5813
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If someone uses Slackware-current he must read ChangeLog every day!
Yes
Especially these days
 
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Old 10-31-2020, 10:59 AM   #5814
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BUT certainly we are some puny Humans, many do not expecting to survive more than of next 20 years at best.
/me knocks on wood
 
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Old 10-31-2020, 12:02 PM   #5815
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I read the current changelog multiple times a day. Always run:

Code:
slackpkg update
slackpkg install-new
slackpkg upgrade-all
I have a clean install of current on a separate partition. The only third party software is the NV blob. The main partition now is as old as 14.2. The clean install will be my main partition once current becomes the new stable.

There is always the possibility of missing something in the changelog. "Running fine here" when instead saying "This was removed/added" would be a better answer. But then again, I digress. My original point was to point out that LuckyCyborg's post was amusing.....
 
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Old 10-31-2020, 06:00 PM   #5816
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...
We can humble ask him "when is ready" to happens BEFORE us going to afterlife, after a well fulfilled lifespan?

Or, maybe this is The Plan? HE waits us to die of old age before Slackware 15 to be released, IF ever will be released?

In fact, there are any real plans for Slackware 15 to be EVER released?

IF NOT, please inform us, we aren't certainly a bunch of children and certainly we can take sober any news.
Putting aside trolling...

Apart from a dubious justification of the way you're talking to other members by referring to the way your bosses talk to you, I retain from your last weeks posts a serious intolerance for someone not doing things the way you wish and a certain inclination for harassment.
 
Old 10-31-2020, 06:39 PM   #5817
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Putting aside trolling...

Apart from a dubious justification of the way you're talking to other members by referring to the way your bosses talk to you, I retain from your last weeks posts a serious intolerance for someone not doing things the way you wish and a certain inclination for harassment.
If I remember right, the misunderstanding between him and his Uncle Eric was cleared also by the testimony of a native British and they look being today in cordial relations, so don't' you think is ironic for a French to come to give us lessons of British English? After even a native British expressed his opinion about this particular subject?

What's your next intention? To give me lessons of Chinese? I will be glad to hear you.

In other hand, at least LC's an active member of this community and even solved some general interest issues like is properly porting the elogind on Slackware which consequently permitted bringing up the Wayland on Plasma5 and Slackware. This compared with you, who felt the need of 16 posts in 12 years...

And your 16th post in those long 12 years is for accusing someone of trolling?

If you intend to play Public Safety and Robespierre here, please be kind to remember that he ended being beheaded by the same guillotine where he sent many before...

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Old 10-31-2020, 06:56 PM   #5818
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"Requests for -current".
 
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Old 11-01-2020, 06:53 PM   #5819
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Originally Posted by mlangdn View Post
For example, someone posts a problem after an update/upgrade, then another pops up with "well, it is working fine here!". Now the OP is left wondering what the hell is wrong with their skills? Terabytes of data could be saved if these types of posts could be eliminated. Absolutely no one is helped by the fact you aren't having a problem.

Did I say I found that post mildly amusing???
The posts saying "it's working for me" isn't meant to tell the person good luck, it's stating that the problem doesn't exist on all situations. This could mean that OP did something to their system or that it is tied to hardware differences (like we were seeing years back with instability in ktown for certain GPU setups).

But sometimes it is as easy as saying, it works on a clean install for OP to go back through and figure out what's different. Maybe it is simply an outdated dependency.
 
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Old 11-02-2020, 09:43 AM   #5820
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man-pages 5.09
https://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/doc...es-5.09.tar.xz
 
  


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