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Old 05-29-2020, 08:33 AM   #5116
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Yes, BUT we talk about slackware-current and skypeforlinux interactions with desktops like Plasma5, which is radical different situation than Slackware 14.2 and its KDE4.

I believe nobody questioned the good work of skypeforlinux package from SBo under Slackware 14.2 and KDE4.
I am not using KDE4 I am using dropline gnome 3.20 on my slackware 14.2 , now I have also a machine with slackware current
and elogind and dropline gnome 3.36 on it, but i have not tested skype there. I will test it and if it does not work I will
report here.
 
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Old 05-29-2020, 10:29 AM   #5117
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Unfortunately, I am able to confirm that the latest skypeforlinux package from SlackBuilds.org interacts badly even with the latest and last Plasma5 build shipped by Mr. Hameleers
I wasn't disputing the validity of it, just stating that I hadn't verified it (since I don't run -current, Plasma5, or skypeforlinux).

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I would like to beg the esteemed forum user basmadrigal to stop his usual attacks started against certain forum users who does not fully follow the current ideology established by the esteemed Elders Council.
What attacks? Stating the obvious, that can be viewed just by viewing threads, are not attacks. And the "ideology established by the esteemed Elders Council" that I'm pushing is respect... nothing more, nothing less. There have been many posts by a few users that seem to think that Alien Bob has some personal vendetta to prevent them from using their system as they please. It has been found time and time again that he is not pushing his own philosophies and is just providing what upstream provides. When he finds they are a little aggressive in "protecting users from themselves", he usually reverts the upstream change.

Why attack Alien Bob when they could simply post their issue and there'd likely be rationale discussion about it and how to fix it (if possible). Respect goes a long way with people, especially volunteers.

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PS. I remember to the esteemed forum user basmadrigal that the one who questioned (in the cited thread) this lack of information from SBo README of skypeforlinux was me, not the thread's OP.
I'm sorry. I guess at some point the vitriol spewed out by some forum members at volunteers starts to blend together. *YOU* were the one who was out of line in that thread stating that the skypeforlinux maintainer should've put a warning up about a bug they had no idea about. On top of that, you were running -current, which is unsupported by SBo, and ktown, which is also unsupported by SBo. I'm still amazed you had the gall to call out that maintainer.

That being said, LuckyCyborg has had plenty of their own posts that are attacking volunteers.
 
Old 05-29-2020, 11:05 AM   #5118
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NetworkManager-1.24.2
https://download.gnome.org/sources/N...-1.24.2.tar.xz
 
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Old 05-29-2020, 11:10 AM   #5119
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Qt-5.15.0 released
https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-5.15-released

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Old 05-29-2020, 11:55 AM   #5120
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Qt-5.15.0 released (Qt 5.15 is LTS)
https://www.qt.io/blog/qt-5.15-released
No, I am quite sure that for the open source users like us who do not pay for a Qt license, the Qt 5.15.x will be just a typical release, not a LTS one.

Also, I will look suspicius at its compatibility with Plasma5 from today. Maybe in future they will add also support for Qt 5.15.x

Anyway, please read careful the cited announcement, where they say clear that the Qt 5.15.x will be supported LTS only for the commercial customers, hence for those who pay for a Qt license.

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Qt 5.15 is available now for all our users. For our open source users, it will be supported in the same way as other regular Qt releases until the release of Qt 6. For commercial customers, Qt 5.15 will be long-term-supported (LTS) for three years with regular bug fix releases beyond the release of Qt 6.

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Old 05-29-2020, 11:59 AM   #5121
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Anyway, please read careful the a cited announcement, where they say clear that the Qt 5.15.x will be supported LTS only for the commercial customers, hence for those who pay for a Qt license.
Sorry about that, I'll edit my original post.

Andrew.
 
Old 05-29-2020, 12:11 PM   #5122
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Remove qt4config tool and include this https://sourceforge.net/projects/qt5ct/
 
Old 05-29-2020, 01:14 PM   #5123
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Also, I will look suspicius at its compatibility with Plasma5 from today. Maybe in future they will add also support for Qt 5.15.x
According to this Plasma 5.19 is targeting QT 5.14 with an expected release date a week from Tuesday (9 JUN).

Plasma 5.20 is expected to be released in October, but they don't have a target version for QT set yet.

I'm not sure how well Plasma5 compiles against newer versions of QT than it was designed for. Plasma 5.18 states support for both QT 5.12 and 5.13 (the latter is in -current).
 
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Old 05-29-2020, 01:43 PM   #5124
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No, I am quite sure that for the open source users like us who do not pay for a Qt license, the Qt 5.15.x will be just a typical release, not a LTS one.

Also, I will look suspicius at its compatibility with Plasma5 from today. Maybe in future they will add also support for Qt 5.15.x

Anyway, please read careful the cited announcement, where they say clear that the Qt 5.15.x will be supported LTS only for the commercial customers, hence for those who pay for a Qt license.
I have compiled and installed qt5-5.15.0 here on current, i have make a separated packages, because i don't love the the big all in one SlackBuild of slack, the plasma alien packages work.

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Old 05-29-2020, 01:53 PM   #5125
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I have already announced this, here
you are late
 
Old 05-29-2020, 01:55 PM   #5126
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The link which I given is for a complete SlackBuild for elogind, but the software is the same.

With the note that the last ConsoleKit2 release is already 3 years old now...
If that maintainer is "getting hit by a car", then you'll end up with an unmaintained package and I'm not sure it's the best approach for a distro to rely on such situations. The Gentoo github repo is, unfortunately, also maintained by a single person, but at least it's adopted by a serious and resourceful distro that can assign additional capacity for continuity.
 
Old 05-29-2020, 02:05 PM   #5127
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If that maintainer is "getting hit by a car", then you'll end up with an unmaintained package and I'm not sure it's the best approach for a distro to rely on such situations. The Gentoo github repo is, unfortunately, also maintained by a single person, but at least it's adopted by a serious and resourceful distro that can assign additional capacity for continuity.
The elogind tarball itself comes from the same github repository like the one cited by you, even for this SlackBuild, which is just a SlackBuild and not a fork of elogind - please take a look ...

Because I am not skilled enough to make an elogind package able to work properly in Slackware, instead I found and I used this particular SlackBuild, which did properly its job.

Certainly, if this elogind will be adopted by Slackware, there will be a better SlackBuild, maintained by Mr. Volkerding into source tree.

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Old 05-29-2020, 02:15 PM   #5128
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I have elogind-243.7 built with alienbob old script and works ok on my slackwa-current install with dropline gnome. What is exactly different in that kde-elogind ?
 
Old 05-29-2020, 02:36 PM   #5129
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I have elogind-243.7 built with alienbob old script and works ok on my slackwa-current install with dropline gnome. What is exactly different in that kde-elogind ?
Well, apparently the elogind SlackBuild from the kde-elogind repository is an improved variant of the one made by Mr. Hameleers, which is not touched since some time ago, when there was shipped a special build of Plasma5 for Wayland.

For example, there's /etc/rc.d/rc.elogind from KTown
Code:
#
# /etc/rc.d/rc.elogind
#     Initializes the elogind service on Slackware.
#
# Author:
#     Eric Hameleers <alien@slackware.com> 2016
#
# Description:
#     We use elogind (standalone subset extracted from systemd) instead of
#     systemd itself; so we need to initialize a systemd-like state.
#
# Note:
#     Slackware has a tmpfs mounted on /run (see rc.S).
#

# The systemd/elogind state directory:
mkdir -p /run/systemd
chmod 0755 /run/systemd

# Toplevel directory for runtime user session data:
mkdir -p /run/user
chmod 1777 /run/user

# Elogind uses cgroups to organize processes like mapping PIDs to sessions.
#  Elogind's cgroup hierarchy isn't associated with any resource controller
# ("subsystem") so we must create it manually:
mkdir -p /sys/fs/cgroup/elogind
mount -t cgroup -o none,name=elogind elogind /sys/fs/cgroup/elogind
And this is the /etc/rc.d/rc.elogind from kde-elogind
Code:
#!/bin/sh

# /etc/rc.d/rc.elogind
#     Initializes the elogind service on Slackware.
#
# Author:
#     Eric Hameleers <alien@slackware.com> 2016
#
# Description:
#     We use elogind (standalone subset extracted from systemd) instead of
#     systemd itself; so we need to initialize a systemd-like state.
#
# Note:
#     Slackware has a tmpfs mounted on /run (see rc.S).
#

# Elogind can be run automatically by dbus as long as the /run/elogind
# directory is available. You can add one line script in rc.M to create
# /run/elogind upon boot before starting D-Bus:
#
# === file: /etc/rc.d/rc.M ===
# Start D-Bus:
# mkdir -p /run/elogind /sys/fs/cgroup/elogind /run/user
# ( cd /run; rm -rf systemd; ln -sf elogind systemd; )
# ( cd /sys/fs/cgroup; rm -rf systemd; ln -sf elogind systemd; )
# if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus ]; then
#   /etc/rc.d/rc.messagebus start
# fi
# =============================

# *OR* restart/starting it by adding this rc script to rc.local:
# === file /etc/rc.d/rc.local ===
# # Start rc.elogind
# if [ -x /etc/rc.d/rc.elogind ]; then
#   /etc/rc.d/rc.elogind
# fi
# ===============================

start_elogind() {
  if [ -x @ELOGINDLIBEXECDIR@/elogind ]; then
    if [ ! -d /run/user ]; then
      mkdir -p /run/user
    fi
    if [ ! -d /run/systemd ]; then
      mkdir -p /run/elogind /sys/fs/cgroup/elogind
      ( cd /run; rm -rf systemd; ln -sf elogind systemd; )
      ( cd /sys/fs/cgroup; rm -rf systemd; ln -sf elogind systemd; )
    fi
    if pgrep -l -F /run/elogind.pid 2>/dev/null | grep -q elogind; then
      echo "Elogind is already running"
    else
      echo -n "Starting elogind:  "
      rm -f /run/elogind.pid
      @ELOGINDLIBEXECDIR@/elogind --daemon
      echo "@ELOGINDLIBEXECDIR@/elogind --daemon"
    fi
  fi
}

stop_elogind() {
  if pgrep -l -F /run/elogind.pid 2>/dev/null | grep -q elogind; then
    echo -n "Stopping elogind:  "
    pkill -F /run/elogind.pid 2>/dev/null
    echo "DONE"
  else
    echo "Elogind is not running"
  fi
}

case "$1" in
  start)
    start_elogind
    ;;
  stop)
    stop_elogind
    ;;
  restart)
    stop_elogind
    sleep 1
    start_elogind
    ;;
  *)
    echo "Usage: $0 start|stop|restart"
esac

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Old 05-29-2020, 04:28 PM   #5130
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extra/tigervnc for ARM (no build in -current at this time)
The vncserver is especially helpful for headless Raspberry Pi. The 14.2 version of tigervnc is for an older version of xorg-server. Please and thank you!
 
  


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