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In Australia, New Zealand, and everywhere I deal with in Europe (many countries), all use DD MM YYYY
Like I said above, countries may not follow that specific standard, but it is the official date standard for the International Standards Organizations. Standards are voluntary and are not required to be implemented by countries.
I just hate seeing dates in MM DD YYYY or DD MM YYYY format online since it is unknown what method they're using (although, you might be able to guess if they have their location listed in their profile). If someone writes they're using a -current build from 04/09/2018, are they talking about April 9th or September 4th? Trying to diagnose problems could depend on the date (if there were major changes announced in the changelog in July that could help determine what their problem was). If it is written as 2019/04/09, Apr 9, 2019, or 9 APR 2019, there is absolutely no question what date they're talking about.
I guess that the certain dates are quite important for Military, and if the President orders to tomahawk-ize someone's airbases on September 4th, will be quite bad if the Military will do it on April 9th by mistake.
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I guess that the certain dates are quite important for Military, and if the President orders to tomahawk-ize someone's airbases on September 4th, will be quite bad if the Military will do it on April 9th by mistake.
I just hate seeing dates in MM DD YYYY or DD MM YYYY format
I mostly use DD mmm YYYY (with the month in letters) or YYYY-MM-DD i.e. in this alias
Code:
alias ll='ls -l --time-style=+%F\ %T'
I DO find the USA order for dates very confusing, both DD MM YY as well as YYYY MM DD conform to natural orders, the first is like LSB in that the most rapid varying value is the first one, while the latter is MSB, most significant value (and least rapid changing one) first so that it constitutes a sorting order.
But when giving the day-of-week too it is more logical to use DD MM YYYY like the %c option does for me:
Thu 31 01 2019
I got used to seeing yy.ddd from my time on mainframes. I still think it's a good choice as a simple identifier for when month and day of month have no significance. Besides, where space allows you can always pander to people who can't be bothered to work it out with something like:
$ date -u '+%Y-%j %R %Z (%b %d, %A)'
2019-033 10:36 UTC (Feb 02, Saturday)
Months are just meaningless and arbitrary constructs of variable length. Time we did away with them I say!
I guess that the certain dates are quite important for Military, and if the President orders to tomahawk-ize someone's airbases on September 4th, will be quite bad if the Military will do it on April 9th by mistake.
The US military typically uses either DD MMM YYYY, YYYYMMDD, or the "julian date" (the number of days since the beginning of the year, although, technically, this is actually the ordinal date -- Feb 2nd is the 033 day and Dec 31st is the 365 day except for leap years, which would be the 366 day).
that is what I as going to say, day month year is US Military, it is one of the things they do to the people in the military to try and "brain wash" them into staying in. Most everything is named differently and done the opposite way of civilian life, so some or the ones that have a hard time adapting to new ways of doing things find it hard to cope with life if they get out, so it increases the changes of them staying in because they've become institutionalized to the military way of life, then you have the ones that cannot seem to break away once a marine, always marine, it is the only thing they can identify with. is another mild example of this effect. That is the psychology behind the reason for them switching almost everything between military and civilian life. Why are they doing this in Linux, humm... makes me wonder.
and they use 24 hour time too, and there is no such thing as, 2400 hrs, it's 0000 hrs. count it off and see for yourself.
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that is what I as going to say, day month year is US Military, it is one of the things they do to the people in the military to try and "brain wash" them into staying in.....
Total complete utter nonsense!!!
What? Did you wash out?
i think nedit would be a good text editor to be included with Slackware, it's only dependency is motif and it features syntax highlighting, execute commands and commandline, split pane, and spell checker,
that is what I as going to say, day month year is US Military, it is one of the things they do to the people in the military to try and "brain wash" them into staying in. Most everything is named differently and done the opposite way of civilian life, so some or the ones that have a hard time adapting to new ways of doing things find it hard to cope with life if they get out, so it increases the changes of them staying in because they've become institutionalized to the military way of life, then you have the ones that cannot seem to break away once a marine, always marine, it is the only thing they can identify with. is another mild example of this effect. That is the psychology behind the reason for them switching almost everything between military and civilian life. Why are they doing this in Linux, humm... makes me wonder.
and they use 24 hour time too, and there is no such thing as, 2400 hrs, it's 0000 hrs. count it off and see for yourself.
Wow... just wow. The military doesn't need to "brain wash" people. And for the most part, they really don't care if people stay in past their initial enlistment. Sure, there might be a few specialties that need people, so they'll offer them reenlistment bonuses, but that is the exception, not the expectation.
And the way they do the date is specifically to ensure that multinational troops can effectively communicate and not list 04/09/2019 as some planned exercise and have half the groups show up on April 9th and the other half on Sept 4th.
Marines might be a bit more gung-ho in becoming a brotherhood, but it certainly isn't brainwashing unless the Marines choose to be. I know plenty of Marines who are totally normal civilians once they get out, and as a recruiter for the Air Force, I've seen plenty of Marines (as well as the other branches) try and come back into the military through the Air Force because of the benefits, and they aren't brainwashed either.
The "psychology" behind switching things is to ensure proper, quick, effective communication. If you're trying to yell 2 o'clock on the radio, are you talking about 2AM, 2PM, or the direction that enemies are coming from? If you say 0200, 1400, or 2 o'clock, then the person knows exactly what you're talking about without having to question it. Really, there isn't that much that's different between military and civilian life. I've been in for almost 12 years and I can still converse with people and I almost always use 2AM or 2PM when I talk to people about time unless it is to someone about a specific military thing, like this plane is expected in at 1400.
What else do they try and switch? In basic training they might have you make your bed, fold your clothes, or line up your shoes a certain way, but that isn't to try and brainwash you and make you do that for the rest of your life, it's to ensure you're able to follow simple instructions and that you have attention to detail. Some may decide to keep that method of making their bed, folding their clothes, and lining up their shoes, but it certainly isn't required. Once I was at my first base, they would just occasionally come in and inspect my room to make sure I wasn't living like a slob, and that was only while I was in the dorms (other branches call them barracks). Once I was on my own (with the military paying me money for my housing), they weren't authorized to come to my house unless I invited them, and it certainly wouldn't be for an inspection.
The people who have a hard time adapting to civilian life are ones that have a hard time adapting to *anything* new. They just didn't have a choice but to adapt in basic training, so when they convert back to civilian life, there's nothing forcing them to adapt/adjust except their desire to, which if they don't have that desire, then they struggle to adapt. And some people really enjoy the camaraderie that is hardly ever seen outside of the military, and there's nothing wrong with being proud of what you've accomplished.
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......is to ensure proper, quick, effective communication. If you're trying to yell 2 o'clock on the radio, are you talking about 2AM, 2PM, or the direction that enemies are coming from? If you say 0200, 1400, or 2 o'clock, then the person knows exactly what you're talking about without having to question it......
Ditto the airlines, railroads and some companies. There is one major corporation, that I know of (there are probably many more), who run the whole operation on GMT/UTC. It doesn't matter where in the world you are, you have to time and date everything by UTC using the 24 hour clock.
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People that incorporate the military life into every aspect of their lives.
And you get people who incorporate football into every aspect of their lives... or cars, girls, computers, etc.
The military isn't the cause, it is people who allow something to consume their life. And they can allow anything to consume their life... it doesn't have to just be the military.
And the amount of people who do this are few and far between. There's even plenty of military pages out there that make fun of them, like https://www.reddit.com/r/JustBootThings/. These type of people are the exception... it is not common for this to happen.
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