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Originally Posted by allend (Post 6245513)

OK - I will bite after mulling on this for some hours and checking that the date is well past 1 April.
Why would I want this, apart from the fact that all other kde distros include?
I have read the documentation, the default is off. If allowed, supposedly the data only goes to KDE servers, but history teaches that such databases are prone to being breached. Any data collected provides information that could be used for fingerprinting.
Given KDE's history of being prepared to break users to force hardware manufacturers to comply with standards, I do not expect that this is in users best interests, but rather the interest of KDE.

I do not believe that the extreme Tin Foil politics are really useful for us, and I believe that not everybody is a paranoiac sleeping under the bed and yelling guttural from hour on hour: they watch me!

Some people (including me) believes that the Telemetry is actually good for those who make things like an operating system or software, because they can see the real usage of their goods.

Imagine that our BDFL adds some kind of Telemetry on Slackware and somewhere he gets some graphs which says:

- 238000 users uses Plasma5
- 197000 users uses XFCE
- 3 users uses BlackBox
- 12 users uses FVWM
- 1 user uses WindowMaker

OR

- 458000 users uses PulseAudio
- 137000 users uses PipeWire
- 4 users uses pure-ALSA

In fact, exactly this type of data scares some of those hanging around...

The scary thing about Telemetry is that when someone yells "WE, The Users" on a forum or other, our BDFL may have a way to know that beyond those yells may be exactly: NOTHING.

Back to KDE, I for one I would love to known that they can see that I use Plasma5 in a non-systemd Linux distro, and that I keep always open a window of Konsole.

Because I am aware that what they "see" is that everybody uses Plasma5 on systemd.

BTW, there is a good description about what KDE does with this Telemetry:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh_p91XrdeQ

Actually I lost faith with KDE a long time ago. Oh = and I do not do youtube.

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Originally Posted by allend (Post 6245553)

Actually I lost faith with KDE a long time ago. Oh = and I do not do youtube.

Okay, I got it. You are that user who uses WindowMaker. ;)

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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6245549)

Imagine that our BDFL adds some kind of Telemetry on Slackware and somewhere he gets...

No, no, no, no, no! :eek:

All Pat needs to do is make a poll and everyone for sure will provide requested feedback.

Same with KDE et. all... just ask.

There's more than enough data collection, well... everywhere. :rolleyes:

GCC 11.1 released today. https://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-11/changes.html

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Originally Posted by phoronix

GCC 11 has a lot of new processor support, continued work on C++20, early C2X work, shifting the default mode to C++17/GNU++17 (instead of GNU++14 previously), hardware-assisted AddressSanitizer, more OpenMP support, better RISC-V architecture support, and much more.

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Originally Posted by Jan K. (Post 6245575)

Did you noticed that we are around one hundred hanging around and voting on polls?

BUT, I fully refuse to believe that's all of who are Slackware users.

That's why I believe also that those polls are fully NOT relevant, because we aren't senators on the Slackware Congress. ;)

However, even there the Telemetry would help our BDFL to know much more accurate the number of those who uses Slackware.

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Originally Posted by gmgf (Post 6245543)

No problem, you do what you want, me too.

But! Why don't you provide a reason for your request?

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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6245578)

... Telemetry would help our BDFL to know much more accurate the number of those who uses Slackware.

Based purely on what I've stumbled upon on the web, I somehow have the impression Pat doesn't really care... and Slackware doesn't strike me as trying to win a popularity contest either.

So... to be on topic, my request for Slackware 15 and beyond: no telemetry. Ever. :D

Heck, I've broken up a +30 year relationship with another not-to-be-named OS purely over telemetry disagreements.

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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6245578)

However, even there the Telemetry would help our BDFL to know much more accurate the number of those who uses Slackware.

If it were me I'd ask the paying customers on Patreon. https://blog.patreon.com/polling-your-patrons

Telemetry? Quite okay so long as it's very clearly labeled and is opt-in rather than opt-out. Must not become active just by hitting 'next, next, next' during install.

Something like that ?

https://www.bsdstats.org/

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Originally Posted by marav (Post 6245760)

Something like that ?

https://www.bsdstats.org/

Yep!

Hi,

Is there a reason to have an alpha version of mariadb (10.6.0)*?
https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-1060-release-notes/

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Originally Posted by Thom1b (Post 6245811)

Hi,

Is there a reason to have an alpha version of mariadb (10.6.0)*?
https://mariadb.com/kb/en/mariadb-1060-release-notes/

Probably because it works on 32bit too.

Code:

ap/mariadb-10.6.0-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.

      Removed TokuDB stuff from rc.mysqld. Thanks to gsl.

      This update fixes the illegal instruction regession on 32-bit with processors

      that do not support SSE4.1 instructions.

      Thanks to Noel and Charlie Wilder for reporting the issue upstream

      and Matteo Bernardini for helping with the debugging.

      And of course, thanks to the MariaDB upstream developers. :-)

Let's trust our BDFL that it will go stable release before the Slackware 15.0 is released itself. ;)

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Originally Posted by LuckyCyborg (Post 6245812)

Probably because it works on 32bit too.

Code:

ap/mariadb-10.6.0-x86_64-1.txz: Upgraded.

      Removed TokuDB stuff from rc.mysqld. Thanks to gsl.

      This update fixes the illegal instruction regession on 32-bit with processors

      that do not support SSE4.1 instructions.

      Thanks to Noel and Charlie Wilder for reporting the issue upstream

      and Matteo Bernardini for helping with the debugging.

      And of course, thanks to the MariaDB upstream developers. :-)

Let's trust our BDFL that it will go stable release before the Slackware 15.0 is released itself. ;)

OK, it's a good reason. Maybe testing/ would be a better place.