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Old 08-15-2004, 11:01 AM   #1
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Reiserfs on Windows and NTFS on Linux!!!


Hi there everybody, I want to know if is there any program to write and read on reiserfs filesystem, coz I want to access my files from windows and plus write on ntfs volumes on my Slackware 10. What should I do?

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Old 08-15-2004, 11:33 AM   #2
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There's an application called YAReG (Yet Another R(eiser)FStool GUI) that sounds like almost exactly what you need. Just a little heads up, for big files (I'm talking 1 GIG+) YAReG seems to be a bit sluggish when copying from Linux -> Windows, it may seem like the application has frozen, but it hasn't and it will take care of it, just be patient . Hope that helps!
 
Old 08-15-2004, 12:12 PM   #3
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You can read in both directions, using YAReG, there is another out there but i forgot what it's called. But I don't know of any safe way to have write capability to reiserfs from windows. For NTFS there is no safe way to do read/write out of Slackware by default, but there are add-ons that have had good success. Gnashley mentioned one he uses with amigolinux on another thread but I could not find the thread with a quick search.

If you want bidirectional read/write your best bet is to create a FAT32 partition since it is supported well in both operating Systems. Alternatively you could use EXT2/3. In windows you would not be able to mount it as EXT3 but I am pretty sure there is a way to mount an EXT2 partition with read/write using 3d party software.
 
Old 08-15-2004, 12:43 PM   #4
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Is there any partition manager for linux,,, like partition magic for windows,,, coz I want to creat a fat volume,,, what should I do,,, I mean without losting data?

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Old 08-15-2004, 01:20 PM   #5
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You can use fdisk and mkfs through the command line for partitioning, but you can't resize partitions or reformat without data loss. Not many partition managers can actually do that sucessfully.

I use YARG and Reisertool (YARG is an explorer interface for it), it works well, but be wary... It can take FOREVER for large stuff.

I strongly advise against using a single FAT volume to share files between Linux and Windows, unless only one would be reading. Linux writes files to FAT volumes differently than Windows, if I understand it right - Anyway, I have had many problems and data loss from it.

There are Ext2/3FS readers - Paragon makes software that can actually R/W from Windows, IIRC. It's pay software though. There is Ext2fs Explorer or something like that, but it's slow as all get out (and who wants to use Ext2fs anymore? You'll lose your data easy with that format).

Right now your best bet is to write stuff to a Reiser FS partition from Linux and write Windows stuff to an NTFS partition - With 3rd party software Windows can read from Reiser, and Linux can read from NTFS.

Also, just as a side note, I would advise against using multiple ","s in a row. One is enough Not trying to rag on you or anything for it, but a lot of people judge you on how you type.
 
Old 08-15-2004, 01:33 PM   #6
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Quote:
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I strongly advise against using a single FAT volume to share files between Linux and Windows, unless only one would be reading. Linux writes files to FAT volumes differently than Windows, if I understand it right - Anyway, I have had many problems and data loss from it.
Interesting, in that case I guess a FAT32 partition might not be the best idea. I have a 512MB Fat32 partition i use for shared files and have never had problems with it. Then again I don't use it overly much. On the other hand I do use SD cards in both Windows and Linux for transferring of data quite often, mostly as a portable music library, and have never had a problem there either. Who knows maybe I am just lucky.
 
Old 08-15-2004, 01:56 PM   #7
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It may just be that large fat32 volumes have problems - I had problems with an 8 gig partition back in the days of Redhat 6, and I also had insane issues with a 100gig partition 6 months ago
 
Old 08-15-2004, 04:08 PM   #8
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captive-ntfs is the name of that software. It uses LUF drivers which use some .dll code. It's a bit slow, they say, but safe to write to ntfs.
Since you want to go both ways I would also recomend using a FAT to transfer files. Be aware that under linux all files will probably have permissions of 755.

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Old 08-23-2004, 06:48 PM   #9
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I have never experienced problems sharing a fat32 partition between linux and windows...I have been doing it for over a year on my laptop with different flavors of linux (currently Slackware) and windows xp. Currently I needed a chunk of space to install the neverwinter nights dedicated server (~ 2GB) so I put it on the fat32 partition (as my reiserfs partition is rather small due to small laptop harddrive) and have had no issues with it.

I am not arguing that you should use fat32 (as I dont really like it) but I wanted to point out that it can be successful as a shared partition.

I dont know what issues SocialEngineer has had but I hope I dont get them. I dont store anything I cant lose on that partition (I backup to my fileserver) but it would be a pain to have to rebuild everything that IS on there.

It would be nice to have full native support for reiserfs in windows.
 
Old 08-23-2004, 08:54 PM   #10
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I had some issues with FAT32 but that was probably due to stupidity on my part. I just converted my Windows partition to FAT32 and went from there. If I altered the Windows portion in anyway, I'd get a Disk Check when I rebooted into Windows. I figured this wasn't good for the system, so I just switched back to NTFS.

So, if you are going to share, make sure it's a seperate partition from either OS, otherwise, you'll run into trouble.
 
Old 08-23-2004, 09:32 PM   #11
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Yes. I would suggest that as well. I have xp on an ntfs, a fat32 for data storage, and Slack on reiserfs.
 
Old 08-23-2004, 09:36 PM   #12
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Onizuka, I had that problem - Disk check would come up and it would say "file truncated" blah blah, and files would become corrupted. I'm running Windows 2000. However, I don't have any OS on that partition - it was used purely for data.
 
Old 08-24-2004, 12:03 AM   #13
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Hm, well I haven't tried it with a pure data partition, but I was running XP. Could someone verify if this problem persists with a strictly data partition on XP?
 
Old 08-24-2004, 05:43 AM   #14
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Quote:
Originally posted by GT_Onizuka
Hm, well I haven't tried it with a pure data partition, but I was running XP. Could someone verify if this problem persists with a strictly data partition on XP?
I used to have XP on a NTFS partition, Slack on ReiserFS, and a FAT32 partition to share data between XP and Linux , without any problem whatsoever.
 
Old 08-24-2004, 02:57 PM   #15
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Ok, lets ask this - What did you use to format the partition? Did you use mkfs, or some other tool (fdisk, cfdisk, ranish, windows disk management)? If formatting the drive in something different (I've used ranish and WDM before) will work, I'll try it out.
 
  


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