Programs, what you like to see in Slackware tree

Mercury305 · 07-11-2012, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TobiSGD

As I stated, the download is illegal.

Neither SSH nor dd are developed with the intention of being tools that can be used for hacking/sniffing/cracking. Wireshark is, Aircrack-ng is, ... .

BackTrack is a distro specifically designed as a tool for penetration testing. Penetration testing is hacking, no matter if you do it legally or not.

As a matter of fact, Suse is independent from Slackware since S.u.S.E Linux 4.2 (released 1996), which used jurix, a distro made from one of the developers that later built Yast, as a starting point. Also, Suse was bought by Novell in 2004 and is now owned by the Attachmate Group, it is not a German company anymore.

This is your opinion (and mine also, despite the fact that SSH is not a hacking tool). Fact is, neither your nor my opinion change the laws and make it legal.

OMG thats a typo I meant Slackware not backtrack sorry LOL
You are right about Suse.
So my point is that I meant that Slackware is not designed for penatration testing alone but it can have option tools but nevermind let me not argue this topic. I guess I will just have to download the programs just like everybody else myself by using stupid backtrack script kiddy distro.

ruario · 07-11-2012, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by foodown

We use wireshark extensively at work ... I'd say that most anyone who develops software which uses network sockets will wind up using something similar if not wireshark per se.

Indeed, lots of us use it on a regular basis here at Opera even though we have the awesome Dragonfly built in.

ruario · 07-11-2012, 10:43 AM

Wireshark might be for sniffing network traffic but there are plenty of legitimate reasons for doing that, particularly during development of other network software. I honestly hadn't considered it a 'hacking tool' until people in this thread started describing it as one.

brianL · 07-11-2012, 10:47 AM

Have a browse through here:
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/network/

solarfields · 07-11-2012, 11:27 AM

medit

H_TeXMeX_H · 07-11-2012, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianL

Have a browse through here:
http://slackbuilds.org/repository/13.37/network/

Yeah, pretty much everything we might want to be part of Slackware is already a slackbuild.

Martinus2u · 07-11-2012, 12:32 PM

just to bring the thread back on track (not: on backtrack)

Quote:

Originally Posted by anti_user

Hello! I want to know what we like to see in Slackware tree.

In addition to others already mentioned in this thread I would like to see the update of gstreamer packages plus the addition of new ones. Particularly having the 32 bit versions on the mirror makes it so much easier to produce compat32-packages...

Code:

existing:
gstreamer
phonon-gstreamer
gst-plugins-base
gst-plugins-good
new:
gst-plugins-bad
gst-plugins-ugly
gst-ffmpeg
gst-python

Didier Spaier · 07-11-2012, 01:17 PM

I would like Slackware to include some dictation software, like Dragon Naturally Speaking. I keep Windows 7 on my laptop only to be able to run it.

Alas, AFAIK there is no software of this kind working on Linux, neither open nor closed source.

ReaperX7 · 07-11-2012, 06:31 PM

Certain countries do not allow Encryption due to legalities there. SSH is illegal in several countries to use. Even libraries like kerberos are under the same limitations and some are illegal to export outside the USA.

So, those tools may be best left to SlackBuilds so not to get anyone in trouble.

ruario · 07-12-2012, 12:46 AM

@ReaperX7: Given that the other major distros provide these I don't think that Slackware should intentionally limit itself. Anyway wasn't this a thread about what to add, not what to remove?

Nylex · 07-12-2012, 03:15 AM

I don't think Slackware comes with a console-based RSS feed reader, does it? I think it'd be good to include one (Newsbeuter would be my preference; I don't know if any others exist though).

ruario · 07-12-2012, 03:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nylex

I don't think Slackware comes with a console-based RSS feed reader, does it?

Yes it does, snownews.

P.S. This is easy to check:

Code:

$ grep RSS /var/log/packages/*

Or if you don't have a full install, use PACKAGES.TXT from a mirror:

Code:

$ wget -qO- http://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-13.37/PACKAGES.TXT | grep RSS

EDIT: Here is the package description from a 32-Bit 13.37 install:

Code:

PACKAGE NAME:     snownews-1.5.12-i486-1
COMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     120K
UNCOMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     420K
PACKAGE LOCATION: snownews-1.5.12-i486-1.txz
PACKAGE DESCRIPTION:
snownews: snownews (a console RSS newsreader)
snownews:
snownews: Snownews is a console RSS/RDF news reader. It supports all versions
snownews: of RSS natively and can be expanded via plugins to support many other
snownews: other formats.
snownews:
snownews: Snownews was written and is maintained by Oliver Feiler.
snownews:
snownews: Snownews homepage:  http://kiza.kcore.de/software/snownews
snownews:
snownews:

Nylex · 07-12-2012, 05:29 AM

I'm not at home now

. Ah, I didn't realise that, but I like Newsbeuter anyway

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Mercury305 · 07-12-2012, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ReaperX7

Certain countries do not allow Encryption due to legalities there. SSH is illegal in several countries to use. Even libraries like kerberos are under the same limitations and some are illegal to export outside the USA.

So, those tools may be best left to SlackBuilds so not to get anyone in trouble.

So if "ssh" is illegal that makes Slack or more rather Linux illegal to those countries!

I would say f@#$ the laws and add in the rest of the network auditing tools... But thats just my opinion.

Or better yet have 2 versions of Slackware. One for USA and one for the rest of the world with all the limitations it has.

But having Dragon Dict would be very cool as well however I don't know how much space that will take up.

Mercury305 · 07-12-2012, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ruario

Yes it does, snownews.

P.S. This is easy to check:

Code:

$ grep RSS /var/log/packages/*

Or if you don't have a full install, use PACKAGES.TXT from a mirror:

Code:

$ wget -qO- http://ftp.slackware.no/pub/linux/slackware/slackware-13.37/PACKAGES.TXT | grep RSS

EDIT: Here is the package description from a 32-Bit 13.37 install:

Code:

PACKAGE NAME:     snownews-1.5.12-i486-1
COMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     120K
UNCOMPRESSED PACKAGE SIZE:     420K
PACKAGE LOCATION: snownews-1.5.12-i486-1.txz
PACKAGE DESCRIPTION:
snownews: snownews (a console RSS newsreader)
snownews:
snownews: Snownews is a console RSS/RDF news reader. It supports all versions
snownews: of RSS natively and can be expanded via plugins to support many other
snownews: other formats.
snownews:
snownews: Snownews was written and is maintained by Oliver Feiler.
snownews:
snownews: Snownews homepage:  http://kiza.kcore.de/software/snownews
snownews:
snownews:

Console based RSS would be very cool.