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Old 10-07-2016, 12:54 AM   #106
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Provably, by this thread (just look at the begin) the psychological trauma is more on the side of the Slackware community, where several members take the first Linux experience of some person to serious and focus on the, in this context total irrelevant word Slackare.
If you would remove the word Slackware from the interview it would change nothing, and how was the reaction (see post#5).

some portion of paranoia, a common image of an enemy, taking your self to serious, bashing all that are not 100% with you as they are against you, suddenly people have an opinion just because they can run with the pack, not mentioning mods that have all the sudden a very strange view of reality and call the term 'big mouth' inappropriate language. funny looking at the post I quote here., but just on other sing for how far of reality this sect here meanwhile is.
I can imagine the parties that you attend.

You are one of the least self-aware life forms that I've encountered on-line, which is pretty amazing given the forums that I've been on.

EDIT: Time to expand the ignore list. Have fun raving into the darkness and convincing nobody, a4z.

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Old 10-07-2016, 03:03 AM   #107
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Provably, by this thread (just look at the begin) the psychological trauma is more on the side of the Slackware community, where several members take the first Linux experience of some person to serious and focus on the, in this context total irrelevant word Slackare.
If you would remove the word Slackware from the interview it would change nothing, and how was the reaction (see post#5).

some portion of paranoia, a common image of an enemy, taking your self to serious, bashing all that are not 100% with you as they are against you, suddenly people have an opinion just because they can run with the pack, not mentioning mods that have all the sudden a very strange view of reality and call the term 'big mouth' inappropriate language. funny looking at the post I quote here., but just on other sing for how far of reality this sect here meanwhile is.
People have an opinion on technology and the actors that drive it (Bill Gates/Steve Jobs) just like politics. I don't think that is going to change. It is a part of being human. I call Trump a narcissist and Hillary a sociopath. No one is going to convince me otherwise. I don't think having opinions about public figures/stuff is bad, sometimes it can be irritating when I think they are wrong, but I let it slide with people because they are free to have their opinions. People bash a lot of stuff specifically politicians/political parties, religion, Hollywood movies that are all colored teal and orange (maybe that is just me). This is a forum about linux so the bashing is operating system related. I'm not surprised someone that is so interested in technology that they formed their own distribution would have a strong opinion. Systemd came on the stage with an agenda of integration and removing the pointless differences between distributions which seems like bullying behavior to me. I am not surprised people react to that. My understanding is that they started off promising that udev would be init agnostic and renegaded on that. It would have been better if they played nice if possible. Was playing nice possible? I think the systemd developers have built up ill will which could have been avoided. It should have been another flavor of the month init that could be plugged into a system if so desired. I think people are weary because systemd is perpetually becoming something and with sysvinit people know what they got. I think Slackware users are conservative by nature. I'm not quite sure why the dislike regarding pulse audio (except when the daemon crashes and fails to restart). Systemd is still becoming whatever it is going to be with new features being added (which I think concerns people here). People who expect it to fall flat on its face someday based on its design may be proven right or wrong. As long as Slackware can get by without it I don't see what the problem is. The prospect of it being Slackware's problem is probably fueling the opposition. I think if nothing comes of it people will get bored of it and the issue will die down.
 
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Old 10-07-2016, 03:28 AM   #108
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some portion of paranoia, a common image of an enemy, taking your self to serious, bashing all that are not 100% with you as they are against you, suddenly people have an opinion just because they can run with the pack, not mentioning mods that have all the sudden a very strange view of reality and call the term 'big mouth' inappropriate language. funny looking at the post I quote here., but just on other sing for how far of reality this sect here meanwhile is.
In other words: everyone around you seems like an asshole.
 
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Old 10-07-2016, 04:08 AM   #109
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In other words: everyone around you seems like an asshole.
the non existing quality of your interpretations is once again well documented, no one of this forum is actual around me, but thank's a lot for proving me right.
 
Old 10-07-2016, 11:26 AM   #110
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I've seen this sort of entitlement before, and I assure you nobody will fork it because there is no point forking things that have such a major defect in the blueprint.
Things that used to work but changed for the worse can get forked, but this thing was defected before it was written because of the idea to couple all the things into one PID.
It's not technical knowledge or lack thereof that prevents people from forking the project, it's the fact that it's wasted time and effort trying to improve upon a useless design.
Next time someone tells you he doesn't need or like some program, you should assume he won't use it at all, and suggest another one, not expect him to rewrite the thing just because it's open source.
And before you post more flamebait, let me remind you what happened to the old slackware forums.
Noooo, now you gave him an incentive to continue.
 
Old 10-07-2016, 11:30 AM   #111
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the non existing quality of your interpretations is once again well documented, no one of this forum is actual around me, but thank's a lot for proving me right.
actually, in the relative reality of the internet, cyberspace becomes a type of physical space so, kiki is correct about "...everyone around you."
 
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Old 10-07-2016, 12:56 PM   #112
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Noooo, now you gave him an incentive to continue.
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actually, in the relative reality of the internet, cyberspace becomes a type of physical space so, kiki is correct about "...everyone around you."
congratulation ChuangTzu for winning today's consistence logic award for this 2 consecutive post within less than 5 minutes
 
Old 10-07-2016, 12:59 PM   #113
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I am amazed, not at a4z comments, but at the sheer number of people who feel the urge to explain he is wrong.
 
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Old 10-07-2016, 01:31 PM   #114
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actually, in the relative reality of the internet, cyberspace becomes a type of physical space so, kiki is correct about "...everyone around you."
Zhuangzi at work.
 
Old 10-07-2016, 02:10 PM   #115
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Can we feng shui cyberspace?
 
Old 10-07-2016, 02:29 PM   #116
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I am amazed, not at a4z comments, but at the sheer number of people who feel the urge to explain he is wrong.
I think most of the reactions were due to his writing style, rather than his points.
 
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Old 10-07-2016, 03:30 PM   #117
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I am amazed, not at a4z comments, but at the sheer number of people who feel the urge to explain he is wrong.
Human nature.

https://xkcd.com/386/
 
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Old 10-07-2016, 04:09 PM   #118
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Human nature.

https://xkcd.com/386/
My wife lives that comic because I tell her that all the time. And I showed her the comic before we were married so she knew what she was in for
 
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Old 10-07-2016, 05:48 PM   #119
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It ends here.

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not mentioning mods that have all the sudden a very strange view of reality and call the term 'big mouth' inappropriate language.
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In other words: everyone around you seems like an asshole.
I think I made it perfectly clear that, to be able to defuse this thread properly, comments that are not constructive, helpful, on topic and don't invite positive discussion are no longer allowed in this thread. I also made it clear this applies to all of you: no exceptions. Your efforts to steer this thread back onto topic have been lacking somewhat. This really is a let down for the rest who tried hard to avoid further aggravation, hostilities etcetera (and I would like to thank you all for your efforts and patience). Unfortunately continuing this thread in the same vein not in the best interest of this thread nor this community.

As with all such situations the blame does not simply fall to one side.
Introspect and see what you could have done better, differently.
Until you both PM or email me you will follow my directives and comply this thread is closed.
 
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