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Old 06-10-2024, 08:42 AM   #16
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Why not try out AlienBob's live version of Slackware-15.0?

https://slackware.uk/people/alien-sl...e64-15.0-live/

Might be a way to get a feel for it and whether you find it too bloated.
 
Old 06-10-2024, 08:45 AM   #17
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Seems wasteful to install a bunch of stuff I won't use.
Then Slackware is not for you.

Slackware does not have dependency resolution, but of course its packages has dependencies like in any distro. The solution is to install a bunch of stuff you won't use. All of stuff.

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Old 06-10-2024, 08:45 AM   #18
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Wow 17gb! I think arch prides itself on being able to be installed on only a few hundred mb. At least that was the case at one point a few years ago from what I remember.

I only have 64gb on this laptop I was recently gifted. Regardless of space limitation even if I didn't have them I would have a hard time justifying such space usage on programs I probably would not use. What is taking up all that space?

So while slackware may be king of the hill in terms of stability it seems it is making no attempts to be lightweight? Are the recommendations from fatmac in post #7 going to achieve both goals?
It might be helpful if you could describe in more detail what you need from your system? Administration? Compiling? Need for a browser, email, office programs, graphics or audio/video stuff?

EDIT: From wiki.archlinux.org regarding disk space recommendations:
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/ traditionally contains the /usr directory, which can grow significantly depending upon how much software is installed. 15–20 GiB should be sufficient for most users with modern hard disks.

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Old 06-10-2024, 08:58 AM   #19
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Then Slackware is not for you.

Slackware does not have dependency resolution, but of course its packages has dependencies like in any distro. The solution is to install a bunch of stuff you won't use. All of stuff.
Just found this which is claiming 200mb. Comments?
 
Old 06-10-2024, 09:01 AM   #20
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It might be helpful if you could describe in more detail what you need from your system? Administration? Compiling? Need for a browser, email, office programs, graphics or audio/video stuff?

EDIT: From wiki.archlinux.org regarding disk space recommendations:
Pretty minimal these days. Have even hung up my programming hat indefinitely so just a tight and lean system for basic web browsing and watching videos. 90% of what I use it for is research now and the normal day to day online tasks.
 
Old 06-10-2024, 09:08 AM   #21
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Just found this which is claiming 200mb. Comments?
Personally, I do not recommend you to start learning Slackware by using minimal installations like these.

It's like you want to learn to climb mountains, but you start with the Himalayas.
 
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Old 06-10-2024, 09:24 AM   #22
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If space is that much of an issue, you may have larger problems.

I usually install, omitting KDE, the texlive stuff, emacs and games, then go for the "install everything" option. Never really considered how much space that uses/frees up.

Omitting KDE, which is likely to be several GBs, will reduce installation size. Similarly, if you don't intend to to use XFCE, then omit that as well.
 
Old 06-10-2024, 09:30 AM   #23
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Sorry

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Old 06-10-2024, 10:22 AM   #24
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just a tight and lean system
You are kidding, right? You come to Slackware with this mindset?

Well, as long you resolve yourself manually the packages dependencies of your "tight and lean" Slackware system, I have nothing against.

But I for one I strongly recommend you to start your journey with Slackware by doing a Holly Full Install. Especially if you expect to receive help from this forum, because all the guys from this forum will expect that you did that.

Because NOTHING will stop you to uninstall a critical package and put down your system.

But maybe you expect your fun on the next years to be resolving manually the dependencies from Slackware? In this case, have your fun!

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Old 06-10-2024, 10:43 AM   #25
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Just found this which is claiming 200mb. Comments?
Might be worth noting that that particular webpage had its last update in 2011...
 
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Old 06-10-2024, 11:37 AM   #26
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Just found this which is claiming 200mb. Comments?
Be careful slackware is not gentoo and you will have problems ...
Anyway if you still want to continue with slackware custom-mini installation good luck, for your help just use this command
Code:
curl -sSL https://raw.githubusercontent.com/gapan/slackware-deps/15.0/$i.dep
$i is package-name you installed and output of this command is its deps as George Vlahavas from SalixOS provide them in github.

So make a package list of what you need in your installation and then check that packages-deps are also in your installation list...
And Good luck again...

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Old 06-10-2024, 12:05 PM   #27
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I never did a full install. I'd built a few LFS systems already whewn I started with Slackware, so I installed all the packages that I knew were needed for a basic system plus the applications I wanted and the main libraries they used. Then I tracked down any missing libraries using runtime error messages and a script that someone on the forum gave me. But I'm a pensioner so I have plenty of time on my hands for playing around. It was a fun project for me. I certainly wouldn't recommend it for anyone else.
 
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Old 06-10-2024, 12:50 PM   #28
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Just found this which is claiming 200mb. Comments?
Yes, it is possible to build a tiny installation for a specific purpose using only selected Slackware packages. But if you want a generic system where you easily can add third party packages from slackbuilds.org with a tool like sbopkg or slpkg you really want a full install.

The packages from slackbuilds.org does have dependency resolution when it comes to dependencies from slackbuilds.org. However, they all assume that you have a full install of Slackware. Trying to build a package from slackbuilds.org might fail with more or less intuitive error messages if you don't have a full install.

regards Henrik
 
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Old 06-10-2024, 12:59 PM   #29
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Is the hesitancy to do a full install due to disk space?

I use a virtual machine to have a "clean" install when I need to compile things from SlackBuilds that won't compile on my regular system. My regular system has been upgraded from several earlier Slackware versions and has a lot of other stuff on it, so a VM is the easiest way to have a "clean system".

I am not suggesting a VM - but I wanted to mention that my VM uses a 100GB virtual drive, and that is only 35% full - so a full install there isn't using more than 35GB. The Slackware 15.0 DVD ISO image is <4GB, so it looks like we have a maximum of about 10x expansion from compressed DVD to installed system.

As you spend time trying to make a decision between "full install, contains stuff I don't need" and "partial install, need to figure out what is needed and make sure I have all the dependencies, I refer you to the following XKCD cartoon:

https://xkcd.com/1445/

Don't get caught spending a huge amount of time trying to choose between two options that take a lot less time to process than it takes to research/choose.
 
Old 06-10-2024, 01:45 PM   #30
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Ok, from these latest replies it seems I may be barking up the wrong tree .

It is now sounding like trying to fit a square object in a round hole.

Sounds very 'bloated' in my definition of things.

I'll get my coat?
 
  


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