[SOLVED] Plasma 5: Executing Kate as root is not possible? Eric, you are kidding, right?
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Then the OP rightfully blame Eric Hameleers of "babysitting", instead of treating the issues as good for a bug report.
I think now you are the one who's insulting me. But hey, I know your posting history and remember you insulted the complete Slackware team for supposedly violating the GPL.
I can understand the logic behind browsing the filesystem as root, since that is basically not touching the filesystem and potentially creates better insight.
On the other hand, instructing me to apply a patch so you can use an effing graphical text editor as root, is bullshit. If you want to edit texts as root, use effing elvis.
Now, eff off.
Also, I am contemplating removing the dolphin patch just to piss you off.
You will not pissing me off removing it, because I do not use Plasma 5, I do not use even KDE4, if you remember, I use your XFCE live installed in the hard drive.
But I remember properly that yourself said right to me that Slackware gives me the absolute control over everything.
Philosophically speaking, deliberately refusing the usage of particular applications to root, who supposedly has absolute power, is not exactly "absolute control", I hope we will agree.
@volkerdi, to note that "Nuclear Dutch" I do not think/consider it as a "potentially insulting nickname" but it is an appreciation nickname, being aware of his huge amount of work done, like he's nuclear powered.
And at least in Europe, we use to express our appreciation within nicknames too, since Medieval Age at least.
For example, somewhere I explained the differences between the "King Vlad III Dracula" (appreciation for his military performances, as in "son of a dragon") and "King Vlad III The Impaler" (bad fame referring to his favorite punishment)
Darth have you ever heard of the saying "you can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar?, just a thought"
You will not pissing me off removing it, because I do not use Plasma 5, I do not use even KDE4, if you remember, I use your XFCE live installed in the hard drive.
But I remember properly that yourself said right to me that Slackware gives me the absolute control over everything.
Philosophically speaking, deliberately refusing the usage of particular applications to root, who supposedly has absolute power, is not exactly "absolute control", I hope we will agree.
As a Slackware user, you have all the means available to you - including full source code and scripts - to do as you please with Slackware. If you want to go against UI design decisions of the Plasma 5 developer (and you are entitled to have a different opinion) then patches are only one click away.
What I mean with total control may not be the same as your interpretation of total control. Have you ever tried to delete your root directory as a non-root user? You will fail, but does that mean you don't have total control? There's always one step beyond.
And no, the "root" user does not have absolute power in the sense you mean. Root can prevent root from doing things, but root also has the power to undo this. Total power can not be defined in terms of the instant.
FWIW - There is a similiar thread in the software forum. Following the link in post #3 there willl get you to this.
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Luckily there is no need for editing a file to run the editor as root. There is a neat tool called sudoedit. That does the magic of starting the editor as the user and takes care of storing the file as root when you save.
Today I pushed a change for Kate and KWrite which does no longer allow to be run as root. Instead it educates the user about how to do the same with sudoedit.
It has never been considered good practice to run X as root.
And no, the "root" user does not have absolute power in the sense you mean. Root can prevent root from doing things, but root also has the power to undo this. Total power can not be defined in terms of the instant.
By absolute power I mean that me, as root, to have ability to use any resource (or program) of the operating system, even that results in its complete and unrecoverable damage. An absolute king of the OS.
When you partially deny those rights, the root become a kind of user with administration rights, just like in Windows.
Last edited by LuckyCyborg; 12-19-2017 at 05:50 PM.
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