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Distribution: Slackware64-current with "True Multilib."
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Here safeway.com and wsj.com work perfectly in both VIvaldi and Firefox. In SeaMoneky, wsj.com works, but safeway.com does not.
Thanks for mentioning SeaMonkey. I hadn't used it in months, if not a year or two, and glad to see Lightning is now included.
Last edited by cwizardone; 03-20-2022 at 12:10 AM.
Reason: Typo.
v30.0.1 (2022-03-20)
This is a critical bugfix release.
Fixed an issue with browser initialization that would leave some components (like password managing) incorrectly initialized if the (obsolete) preference privacy.donottrackheader.enabled was set.
Fixed an issue in XML transformation that could cause crashes, performance issues and general stability problems.
Distribution: Slackware64-current with "True Multilib."
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ALERT!!!
Quote:
21 march 2022
Pale Moon 30 rollout cancelled. Following severe issues with the unexpected exit of a core dev and considerable damage caused to our operations, the milestone 30 rollout has been cancelled.
When going to download the source for v30.0.1, I did notice on the release notes page that v30 had been recalled...
I've been using v30.0.0 for several days now, and I haven't had any problems--even with the "hated" NoScript add-on. I'm now compiling 30.0.1 bug-fix release, and so far, so good.
In any event, unless M.C. declares that there is some critical security bug in the v30 series, I'll keep using it.
On a related topic: the safeway.com problem seems clearly to be a javascript issue. I tried safeway.com and with NoScript in place, there were no lockups. Of course, without javascript, as soon as you try to navigate beyond the front page, you can't do much...
OK, just went over to the Palemoon forums and my suspicions have been confirmed: the "recall" was due to the final falling out between Moonchild and Tobin. M.C.'s explaination/apology.
The only surprise here, to my thinking, is that this didn't happen sooner. Tobin, while obviously a talented coder, has shown himself for years to be an arrogant, loud-mouthed cunt, (as evidenced by his unprovoked attack on Eric a while back, saying that AlienBOB should "go fuck himself.")
And while this does seem to be quite a setback for the PM project, I hope that M.C. will soldier on and keep the project going. PM represents a last-gasp effort to save the web from a certain Silicon Valley behemoth, and I for one appreciate having PM as an option.
OK, just went over to the Palemoon forums and my suspicions have been confirmed: the "recall" was due to the final falling out between Moonchild and Tobin. M.C.'s explaination/apology.
The only surprise here, to my thinking, is that this didn't happen sooner. Tobin, while obviously a talented coder, has shown himself for years to be an arrogant, loud-mouthed cunt, (as evidenced by his unprovoked attack on Eric a while back, saying that AlienBOB should "go fuck himself.")
And while this does seem to be quite a setback for the PM project, I hope that M.C. will soldier on and keep the project going. PM represents a last-gasp effort to save the web from a certain Silicon Valley behemoth, and I for one appreciate having PM as an option.
I think the truth is a bit different. Tobin can be abrasive that is for sure, but he is actually well meaning. I think Moonchild is more to blame for things, then he wants to admit. I think factors and dynamics are little more complicated then can be shared on a forum post; not to mention personal.
I think the truth is a bit different. Tobin can be abrasive that is for sure, but he is actually well meaning. I think Moonchild is more to blame for things, then he wants to admit. I think factors and dynamics are little more complicated then can be shared on a forum post; not to mention personal.
You make a good point. Not being privy to what went on behind the scenes, I suppose we users will never know who deserves the bulk of the blame for the current drama at Pale Moon.
However, I can't overlook the fact that Tobin went out of his way to sabotage things on his way out the door. I've just spent the last hour over on the PM forums to get up to speed, and I read Tobin's rage-quit post, and MC's response. Whatever else may have happened out of public view, I can't construe his intentionally destructive actions as "well meaning."
You make a good point. Not being privy to what went on behind the scenes, I suppose we users will never know who deserves the bulk of the blame for the current drama at Pale Moon.
However, I can't overlook the fact that Tobin went out of his way to sabotage things on his way out the door. I've just spent the last hour over on the PM forums to get up to speed, and I read Tobin's rage-quit post, and MC's response. Whatever else may have happened out of public view, I can't construe his intentionally destructive actions as "well meaning."
I don't see how he sabotaged anything, in this particular case. I was there the whole time, the way he presented it in the forum, and the way moonchild presented it in the forum, were not exactly how I would say it happen. However, moonchild's presentation of the so called sabotage, is definitely more deflection of blame. Moonchild released broken binaries and blames Tobin for it. The website isn't why we needed a Pale Moon 30.0.1 right of the bat. None of this is devastating to me, (no one is perfect) but this is the foundation of all the blame shifting. I agree with devs that, release something when its ready. Pale Moon 29 series should of remained stable branch and 30 should have been current. Excuses and blame shifting.
Anyway I'm not going to get sucked into airing out everyone's flaws, and what they did wrong. I'm just saying Moonchild is for sure the one who shares the bulk of the blame, on multiple levels.
Last edited by khronosschoty; 03-21-2022 at 03:02 PM.
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