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Old 09-17-2015, 04:24 AM   #1
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OT: reliable XMPP server?


Hi,

One of my clients has been using Pidgin to interact with the company's employees. Every employee has his own office, and the chat application is quite handy for communicating quickly. I setup accounts for them on a french XMPP server, but unfortunately, the service closed its doors recently.

Can you recommend a reliable XMPP server?

Cheers,

Niki
 
Old 09-17-2015, 05:48 AM   #2
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Set up your own internal and private jabber server? http://xmpp.org/xmpp-software/servers/
 
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Old 09-17-2015, 08:03 AM   #3
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I have accounts at jabber.org and jabber.xs4all.nl and i guess there are more still. Clients don't all have to use the same server to be able to commnicate.
Also, you have Google Talk which uses a mangled version of XMPP.

And like NicePics13 said, you can setup your own and start offering it as a new service to your customers.
 
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Old 09-17-2015, 10:56 AM   #4
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Old 09-17-2015, 03:30 PM   #5
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Also, you have Google Talk which uses a mangled version of XMPP.
Google Talk is dead officially in favor of proprietary Hangouts. I run a private prosody server and during last 3-4 month I lost the ability to chat with people with gmail accounts. Only presence is visible.
 
Old 09-17-2015, 04:16 PM   #6
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Google Talk is dead officially in favor of proprietary Hangouts. I run a private prosody server and during last 3-4 month I lost the ability to chat with people with gmail accounts. Only presence is visible.
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Google Talk is an instant messaging service that provides both text and voice communication.[1][2] The instant messaging service is colloquially known as "gtalk", "gchat", or "gmessage" to its users, although Google does not endorse those names.[3] As of March 2015, it is not discontinued—despite reports to the contrary—and officially remains available over XMPP in third party applications.[4]....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Talk
 
Old 09-17-2015, 04:20 PM   #7
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Google Talk is dead officially in favor of proprietary Hangouts. I run a private prosody server and during last 3-4 month I lost the ability to chat with people with gmail accounts. Only presence is visible.
I still run Pidgin with GTalk/Hangout.
 
Old 09-17-2015, 06:11 PM   #8
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As of March 2015, it is not discontinued—despite reports to the contrary—and officially remains available over XMPP in third party applications.[4]
Yes, alice@gmail.com can chat with bob@gmail.com via different xmpp-applications. But they can't chat with carol@example.org any more.
 
Old 09-17-2015, 07:58 PM   #9
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I run my own XMPP server using ejabberd. It's been rock solid for me for years. May not have the most and latest features, but it is modern enough. I'd say it has the best performance and most scalable, but perhaps not the easiest to setup. In fact it's probably carrier grade, written in erlang.

I'd recommend getting a Digital Ocean droplet or some cheap Slackware hosting and installing your own ejabberd server. It's not in SlackBuilds.org but shouldn't be to hard to build from source, nothing is on Slackware. Just think, it'll be cool to have your own domain in your jabber id.

P.S. the terminology to use reagarding Google's pull out of XMPP support is "Federated". They no longer support federated (inter-domain) communication. Very disappointing.
 
Old 09-17-2015, 08:21 PM   #10
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OpenFire
I second this recommendation. I've used OpenFire for a small gaming community in the past (30 people). I remember it having many features and more. I also remember it being highly scalable for small to large organizations and being extremely simple to install. I later switched to Google talk since I have a Google Apps domain.
 
Old 09-17-2015, 11:33 PM   #11
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I also run my own prosody instance. If you are looking for a hosted jabber server, Duckduckgo might be an option. I don't use their XMPP service, therefor I can't tell you how reliable it is...


https://duck.co/blog/post/2/using-pi...th-xmpp-jabber
 
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Old 09-19-2015, 08:56 AM   #12
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Thanks for all your answers. I'm currently fiddling with Prosody. I have some setup problems, but I'll post these in another thread. Cheers.
 
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After much more fiddling, we now have our own XMPP server at the local school, running Prosody on Slackware64 14.1. Here's a detailed HOWTO on the subject:

http://www.microlinux.fr/microlinux/...sody-HOWTO.txt

Cheers,

Niki
 
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Old 10-02-2015, 03:59 PM   #14
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Nice! I was afraid there was no alternative but to run something in Java or Erlang. I had not heard of Prosody before.
 
  


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